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Old 07-04-2006, 01:25 PM   #1
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Always cracked me up that those that talk the most shit about hating Muslim nations and the Taliban want to turn this nation into it.
It's not easy being on the sidelines during a jihad/crusade. In this case we have a combo.

A crihad?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:30 PM   #2
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It's not easy being on the sidelines during a jihad/crusade. In this case we have a combo.

A crihad?
Everyone sing now (to the tune of an old Ken-L-Ration TV jingle):

"My God's better than your God, My God's better than yours!
My God's better 'cause he gives sal-al-vation, My God's better than yours..."
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:32 AM   #3
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Everyone sing now (to the tune of an old Ken-L-Ration TV jingle):

"My God's better than your God, My God's better than yours!
My God's better 'cause he gives sal-al-vation, My God's better than yours..."
No, no, no, there's only one God....It goes;

"God likes me better than he likes you.
I know for a fact that this is true
God likes me better than he likes you
'Cause my preacher told me to hate you"
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Old 07-05-2006, 07:17 AM   #4
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My interpretation of the phrase might be wrong. I've always taken "neo-conservative" to mean the new breed of republican- very conservative regarding economics, but very liberal when it comes to government regulation of morals; they're often mentioned by the media in the same breath with religion-based movements.

I just looked it up:
"But it is only to a degree that neocons are comfortable in modern America. The steady decline in our democratic culture, sinking to new levels of vulgarity, does unite neocons with traditional conservatives--though not with those libertarian conservatives who are conservative in economics but unmindful of the culture. The upshot is a quite unexpected alliance between neocons, who include a fair proportion of secular intellectuals, and religious traditionalists. They are united on issues concerning the quality of education, the relations of church and state, the regulation of pornography, and the like, all of which they regard as proper candidates for the government's attention."- Irving Kristol
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...tzmlw.asp?pg=1

It sounds mostly reasonable; but I can see how the neo-cons get easily lumped together with "religious traditionalists", depending on the issue at hand. I don't like the fact that they're essentially giving the r.t.'s more leverage; and while I don't agree with them politically, it's supposedly secular. What I don't understand is how a mostly secular movement can be united with the religious right concerning the relations of church and state. Huh?

I can say this, though. Stay away from my porn, Irving.
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Old 07-05-2006, 07:39 AM   #5
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What I take from the Kriston article is that neo-conservatives are not like the stodgy old conservatives, except for the stodgy part.
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Old 07-05-2006, 07:37 PM   #6
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:56 AM   #7
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"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently."

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Children & born agains alike.

Arbitrary alliance with people on 'your side' is such a pervasive part of our society that even being actively aware, I tend towards it. In fact, the whole concept of 'sides' to argument is remarkably obscene. To argument, to politics, to religion, to most everything that isn't a sandwich, die, or coin. Even a black & white photo has midtone shades.
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:55 AM   #8
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Our jihad name is a Zeemer... this has been established.
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