JUDGE: PRES. BUSH'S WIRETAP PROGRAM VIOLATES CONSTITUTION & MUST STOP

[DanaC]

hehe I like that site. I have never been entirely convinced of this particular plot. It smells fishy enough to use in a paella.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Are you done chanting slogans? Like the Taliban?

So, when you say the democrats are like the Taliban without saying a word to back it up, its okay, but when someone describes the ways the republicans are like the Taliban in response to your seemingly baseless accusation, they're chanting slogans?

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Ibram

So, when you say the democrats are like the Taliban without saying a word to back it up, its okay, but when someone describes the ways the republicans are like the Taliban in response to your seemingly baseless accusation, they're chanting slogans?

Considering how the Republicans would probably (mis)treat her if she were to walk into the 'big tent', MaggieL is a fierce defender of the party.

Given a choice between their 'base' and the Log Cabin Republicans, it's not too hard to see which group will be thrown to the wolves.

Sometimes I wonder if she knows that the there is 1 amendment before the 2nd and 25 after it.

That being said, remember that, other than hunting, the reason for the 2nd amendment was the fear of too much government power, especially concentrated in one branch. Which is what the president is claiming Congress gave him with the simple authority to conduct a war, carte blanche overriding of the FISA laws and any checks on his power.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Are you done chanting slogans? Like the Taliban?

This judgement is so palpably political as to be totally embarassing. Watch what happens to it on appeal.

Nice. Respond to the form, and ignore the substance. I guess we know what that means.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Considering how the Republicans would probably (mis)treat her if she were to walk into the 'big tent', MaggieL is a fierce defender of the party.

Given a choice between their 'base' and the Log Cabin Republicans, it's not too hard to see which group will be thrown to the wolves.

Sometimes I wonder if she knows that the there is 1 amendment before the 2nd and 25 after it.

That being said, remember that, other than hunting, the reason for the 2nd amendment was the fear of too much government power, especially concentrated in one branch. Which is what the president is claiming Congress gave him with the simple authority to conduct a war, carte blanche overriding of the FISA laws and any checks on his power.

Once past the selfishness, Maggie's a liberal. Oh, no - I did not say that.

[9th Engineer]

I'd say the facism slogans are more like a liberal Rush Limbaugh. Totally wrong? No, but simplified past the point of usefullness or any real content.

NeoCons are the most like the Taliban.

[9th Engineer]

That's far to general a use of the term NeoCon. We're not all mini-Bushes any more than all Germans were mini-Hitlers. There are plenty of rational voices, we just get drowned out.

A rational NeoCon? One that believes in the full use of the Contitution and Bill of Rights?
You really belive on exists?
NO illegal search and seasure under ANY circumstances?
Yeah, right.

[9th Engineer]

Again, you're inappropriately using the term NeoCon. Now I'm not a purist NeoCon, I favor low US foriegn intervention, low immigration, private health care, and a much smaller government. A 'Bushie' would call for much bigger government and more US foriegn intervention.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I'd say the facism slogans are more like a liberal Rush Limbaugh. Totally wrong? No, but simplified past the point of usefullness or any real content.

The Left has never had an aggressive, obnoxious, go-for-the-emotional-regardless-of-the-facts asshole like Rush. Even Al Frankin doesn't match up to Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and the like. Isn't it nice to see something familiar from your opponent? :p

[richlevy]

I just saw an editorial on Fox to the effect of 'not exactly legal but very necessary'? Huh? So a 72 hour free pass and eventual judicial review is an invitation to terrorism? There is even a bill to extend the 72 hours to 7 days. That's still not enough. F**k them.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

The Left has never had an aggressive, obnoxious, go-for-the-emotional-regardless-of-the-facts asshole like Rush.

No, they don't have one. They have legions of them.

[Spexxvet]

Care to name any liberal who spews hatred like the conservatives I listed?

[wolf]

Therein lies the gross difference of opinion that makes your question unanswerable ... had you stopped at 'any liberal who spews hatred' there are 1,000 answers.