Hypocritical USA haters in Levis... - Page 2

Spexxvet · 09-13-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Listen to Wolf. She's wise.

Only when she agrees with you, thouh. Right?

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I haven't met a smart anti-neocon yet. A few who think they're smart, yes, but you couldn't prove it by me; the stupid say stupid things. Scratch an anti-neocon deep enough and the substrate looks indistinguishable from an anti-American. Just who the hell needs that?

That's OK. I've never met a smart conservative. Scratch one deep enough and it's the same selfishness inside every one of 'em. Put your republinders back on.

wolf · 09-13-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I live in the deep, DEEP, south, however, I have yet to hear the most nutty redneck lump all Iraqis in with the insurgency.

The deep south ends at the Florida border. You do not live in the deep south.

Florida is New York State, but with Bermuda shorts and a light jacket in February.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-20-2006, 01:10 AM

Selfishness??? Spexx, dear boy, you are without experience of William F. Buckley. You aren't going to find selfishness in that guy, nor stupidity. And then there are the right-of-center guys who can keep up with him.

And your first remark was utterly unworthy of reply. Resist the temptation to declare yourself a schmuck, okay?

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-20-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

You're like the crazy neighbor in sitcoms, aren't you? You waltz in, say something wacky and then disappear.

Glatt, all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

09-20-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

The deep south ends at the Florida border. You do not live in the deep south.

Florida is New York State, but with Bermuda shorts and a light jacket in February.

Then you have spent 0 min in the Panhandle and in Central Fl.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That's OK. I've never met a smart conservative.

True... if you are not a multi-millionaire you are voting against your interests... just stupid. Neo-cons, mean to boot.

Flint · 09-20-2006, 11:07 AM

As long as people are content with catagorizing themselves into these impossibly monolithic groups, and de-humanizing those who are "against" them, we will keep getting bamboozled by the us-versus-them politics of boogeyman-ism. The "two-party system" has become a one-party (divide and conquer) system.

09-20-2006, 11:08 AM

^ That.

Spexxvet · 09-20-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Selfishness??? Spexx, dear boy, you are without experience of William F. Buckley. You aren't going to find selfishness in that guy, nor stupidity. And then there are the right-of-center guys who can keep up with him.
...

Does this sound liberal or conservative?:

"don't tax me. More money in my pocket"
"I shouldn't have to pay for other people's welfare, social security, or medicare. More money in my pocket"
"don't regulate my business - I want all the profits, and if my employees get hurt or sick, or if residents around my factory suffer, I don't care, as long as I'm raking in the dough"
"there shouldn't be a minimum wage - if I can get away with paying someone to work for $1.00/hour, I should be allowed to. More in my pocket."
"illegal immigration is great! Those wetbacks work for just about nothing. More money in my pocket"

09-20-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

And your first remark was utterly unworthy of reply. Resist the temptation to declare yourself a schmuck, okay?

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

... all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

tw · 09-20-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Glatt, all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

Does that mean he has finished rewriting history?

richlevy · 09-20-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

You're like the crazy neighbor in sitcoms, aren't you? You waltz in, say something wacky and then disappear.

Sometimes his behavior is a little too unbelievable. This being the Internet, I'm still not sure that UG isn't the alter ego of another Cellarite. It would be pretty funny if at the end of the year TW confessed that he made him up, or better yet, Marichiko.

09-20-2006, 08:15 PM

No, the personna I REALLY made up was L J! Fooled you,eh?

xoxoxoBruce · 09-20-2006, 08:28 PM

Well....yes...but I think Jinx is in for the real shock.

headsplice · 09-21-2006, 10:54 AM

Some political theory history for everyone:
The neocons primary theoretical antecendent is Leo Strauss, a Trotskyite. Irving Kristol called the neoconservatives, "Socialists who just got mugged." More generally, they're welfare-staters (whether it be personal welfare or corporate) who supported Reagan during the Cold War and they're primarily defined by their foreign policy stances (specifically pre-emptive 'Big Stick'/military action over diplomacy) rather than domestic ones.
Also, they're mostly assholes. They're the ones that make shit up to get their way in government, (e.g., the OSP [Doug Feith's group] in the Pentagon and the current Pentagonian Iran Working Group [and if you don't believe they're trying to get us into Iran, despite the failures in Iraq, you're fooling yourself]).
So, for all you 'liberal haters' out there, be aware of how you label yourselves.

Undertoad · 09-21-2006, 11:05 AM

People will label your labels!

And then others will label the label-labelers!

09-20-2006, 01:10 AM	#18
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Selfishness??? Spexx, dear boy, you are without experience of William F. Buckley. You aren't going to find selfishness in that guy, nor stupidity. And then there are the right-of-center guys who can keep up with him. And your first remark was utterly unworthy of reply. Resist the temptation to declare yourself a schmuck, okay? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

09-20-2006, 11:07 AM	#21
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	As long as people are content with catagorizing themselves into these impossibly monolithic groups, and de-humanizing those who are "against" them, we will keep getting bamboozled by the us-versus-them politics of boogeyman-ism. The "two-party system" has become a one-party (divide and conquer) system. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-20-2006, 08:28 PM	#28
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well....yes...but I think Jinx is in for the real shock. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-21-2006, 10:54 AM	#29
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	Some political theory history for everyone: The neocons primary theoretical antecendent is Leo Strauss, a Trotskyite. Irving Kristol called the neoconservatives, "Socialists who just got mugged." More generally, they're welfare-staters (whether it be personal welfare or corporate) who supported Reagan during the Cold War and they're primarily defined by their foreign policy stances (specifically pre-emptive 'Big Stick'/military action over diplomacy) rather than domestic ones. Also, they're mostly assholes. They're the ones that make shit up to get their way in government, (e.g., the OSP [Doug Feith's group] in the Pentagon and the current Pentagonian Iran Working Group [and if you don't believe they're trying to get us into Iran, despite the failures in Iraq, you're fooling yourself]). So, for all you 'liberal haters' out there, be aware of how you label yourselves. __________________ Don't Panic Last edited by headsplice; 09-21-2006 at 11:14 AM.

09-20-2006, 08:15 PM	#27
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	No, the personna I REALLY made up was L J! Fooled you,eh?

09-21-2006, 11:05 AM	#30
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	People will label your labels! And then others will label the label-labelers!

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