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Old 10-24-2006, 01:41 PM   #1
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Well, I'm guessing the child was in a car seat, and probably not injured, hopefully.

I'm not sticking up for the driver's with no regard for the law...I hate that, too. It just seems a bit harsh, like I said. Say the child was not in a car seat, and was injured. Parent's fault, absolutely, but a brain injured or whatever child seems a harsh punishment.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:52 PM   #2
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I do see where you're coming from - and I agree it's harsh. It's just I like harsh in this situation. It's one of the few issues where my usual liberal coating has worn thin and the right wing reactionary is showing through.

I also advocate buses being able to shunt cars in the bus lane out of the way...
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:07 PM   #3
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It's one of the few issues where my usual liberal coating has worn thin and the right wing reactionary is showing through
I have a couple of those myself.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:05 PM   #4
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If you watch, the black SUV *speeds up* to try to make it. You can also see the drivers side airbag go off.

That's more than slightly funny, that thar is hee-larious. Too bad a kid may have potentially been hurt though.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:11 PM   #5
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No safety mechanism
The posts stop moving upward as soon as something hits them. That sounds like a safety mechanism to me. Unless you expect them to be intentionally ineffective and break when a car hits them?

These are the same type of idiots who would speed up to run a red light, putting everyone else's lives in danger. They are deliberately irresponsible drivers and they deserve whatever damage happens to their car or body.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:17 PM   #6
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The posts stop moving upward as soon as something hits them. That sounds like a safety mechanism to me.
Okay "no functional safety mechanism" (and since we're splitting hairs: how are the cars lifted off the ground by a pole that isn't moving?)
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Unless you expect them to be intentionally ineffective and break when a car hits them?
Which part of my post did I suggest that? Oh that's right, I never did. You're just making stuff up.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:31 PM   #7
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No, I was asking. Hence the question mark. Let me rephrase: Please explain clearly what sort of safety mechanism you expect them to have.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:36 PM   #8
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Please explain clearly what sort of safety mechanism you expect them to have.
I'm not a traffic engineer, so it isn't my job to figure this out. The design of these mechanisms looks dangerous.
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Instead of the cars being rudely and suddenly stopped, the thing should create some sort of bouncy ramp, so they're comically catapulted into the air.
Okay, sometimes an "armchair traffic engineer" has the best ideas. I stand corrected.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:33 PM   #9
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Are purple monkeys flying out of your ass? Nothing to date has suggested this, I'm simply asking. With a question mark.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:36 PM   #10
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Instead of the cars being rudely and suddenly stopped, the thing should create some sort of bouncy ramp, so they're comically catapulted into the air.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:39 PM   #11
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No, I'm wrong, it should be a MOAT. To let the bus pass, a steel bridge drops down. After the bus has gone, it opens to a 15 foot long, four foot deep pit of water. The beauty is, the lift for the bridge doubles as a crane to pull the vehicle out in 15 minutes.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:43 PM   #12
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Are purple monkeys flying out of your ass? Nothing to date has suggested this, I'm simply asking. With a question mark.
Okay, to clearly answer the questions you've asked: 1.) No, purple monkeys are not flying out of my ass, 2.) The cars are lifted off the ground by their own forward momentum as well as the slight continued upward momentum of the pole in the fraction of time it takes to register that something has hit it, and 3.) You never suggested my sarcastic description of a possible safety mechanism in your post; I posted it to express how I found your post to be lacking in information as to what your opinion is:

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It looks dangerous as hell. No safety mechanism, like garage doors have, for instance.
I swear to God I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I'm trying to understand your point in making this statement. So let's back up: Do you believe that the poles should have a safety mechanism, as you noted they do not?
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:08 PM   #13
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I found your post to be lacking in information as to what your opinion is:
I'm not familiar with the traffic area these device are operating in, or what specific problem they are designed to prevent, but I do believe (based on the scant evidence of this video) that whiplash and a totalled car for the offender is an excessive outcome, for what I am assuming was intended as some sort of safety device (see the irony there?) . . .

I'm going out on quite a limb to say: there must be a better way to do this. I don't know what it is, and I'm not going to pretend to know.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:25 PM   #14
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I'm sticking with this:

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...there must be a better way...
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Old 10-24-2006, 07:27 PM   #15
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I swear to God I'm not trying to put words in your mouth...
Talk is cheap Clodfobble. Put your money where your mouth is and cross your heart, hope to die, stick a needle in your eye. Then we'll talk.
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