Dutch Ban Burkas - Page 2

Hippikos · 11-20-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You're blaming us for the trouble with immigrants going on in Germany, France, England, Spain, etc?
You're right about the odds of a terrorist coming to get you, but the problem of immigrants not assimilating is ongoing. It's festering in the slums and ghettos every day and one day it will erupt like it has in France.

The Islamic dress issue is just a symbol of the assimilation problem and I think a statement by the government to the immigrants.... If you want to live here you must adapt to our culture, you will not force us to adapt to yours.
I may be wrong, but that's the message I get.

Wow this thread has exploded! Not for the good unfortunately.

Personally I don't think making such a fuz about 50 Burkas is worth while all the (international) attention. The suggestion came from a one-man party who is infamous for his Islamphobia.

I don't think Islam terrorism is about to take over the Western world. What we see is a backroom war produced by some fundamentalists which will eventually will fade away. Yes, probably there will be some more attacks like London, Madrid, but these are only incidents. Unfortunately some Western politician USE this phenomenon to stay in power and that's the whole problem. The more attention you give to this jihad the more popular it becomes. and you only keep it alive for longer.

International Islam terrorism should be fought where it ought to be: in the shadow of every days life by special forces. There was a big chance in Afghanistan but unfortunately the US blew it and is now reaping the bitter fruits.

Eventually the Western style democracy will survive in the world by Globalisation but only when it shows that it is a peaceful alternative. Now most Islam people think that the West is only there to concur their countries and use same methods like Abu Ghraib.

What the Pentagon is doing actually should have been done (and is done in many countries) by Microsoft, McDonalds, Starbucks.

Funny enough one of the first Islam country I foresee a democracy to rise is Iran...

DanaC · 11-19-2006, 03:12 PM

It's not a statement to immigrants.....it's a statement to moslems.

lookout123 · 11-19-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

It's not a statement to immigrants.....it's a statement to moslems.

... who want to be immigrants.

wolf · 11-19-2006, 05:22 PM

I would expect that it generalizes. They don't want Greeks wearing the shoes with the pom-poms on them either.

Welcome to Holland, we have 1000 years of culture, wooden shoes, tulips, art, music, and all that. It's part of of our identity.

I wouldn't go to work for McDonalds and expect to wear a hat left over from my prior experience at Burger King. When in Rome, etc. etc.

DanaC · 11-19-2006, 05:26 PM

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I would expect that it generalizes. They don't want Greeks wearing the shoes with the pom-poms on them either.

I'd be interested to knjow, but I suspect it doesn't generalise

9th Engineer · 11-19-2006, 05:32 PM

It's probably a statement to the muslims because they're the ones causing the majority of the problems. They want to keep out trouble makers, and guess what demographic just earned itself a place in that catagory

11-19-2006, 07:59 PM

Dana C , I have not even bothered to read the above . You pose as

wolf · 11-20-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddug

Dana C , I have not even bothered to read the above . You pose as

Wow. Ban must have taken effect in mid-post. Cool.

(apparently not. Buddug must have had to take a hit of oxygen, like Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet. Or was that Nitrous. Whatever.)

Ibby · 11-19-2006, 08:03 PM

as...

Oh no, Dana, Buddug says you pose as! Whatever shall you do!?

11-19-2006, 08:06 PM

a British woman all the time . You try to sell what 'we' do in Britain to the Yanks on this forum . Except that I do not see you as being part of my 'we' . I stated this fact earlier , and your sugar-sweet coating soon disolved . I think you told me to destroy my private ( British) organs on a sharp stick ?

I think that you and your ilk are part of a Trojan horse which menaces the free world .

Ibby · 11-19-2006, 08:08 PM

I sure hope Dana's a better representative of you lot than you are, buddug.

Flint · 11-19-2006, 08:10 PM

Jesus Christ, just ignore the thing. Trolls should be entertaining, at least. There is literally nothing to see here. Move along...

Ibby · 11-19-2006, 08:12 PM

Aww, but its so fun tearing it limb from limb, over and over and over and over and over!

11-19-2006, 08:19 PM

Dana is a Muslim who lives in Britain . There is no such thing as a British Muslim . Muslims put the idea of nationality behind their idea of being French / American / British or whatever . They see us as impure whilst enjoying the priveliges that our civilization offers them . They try to destroy our system from within .

We have to understand this ( geez , I even feel friendly towards bloody Americans within this context )

Aliantha · 11-19-2006, 08:20 PM

When people are forced to give up part of their belief system, they are being asked to give up part of themselves.

We live in a time where culture is being destroyed faster than ever before.

Every 6 minutes a dialect is erased from the face of the earth.

How much faster must this process become?

11-19-2006, 05:22 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I would expect that it generalizes. They don't want Greeks wearing the shoes with the pom-poms on them either. Welcome to Holland, we have 1000 years of culture, wooden shoes, tulips, art, music, and all that. It's part of of our identity. I wouldn't go to work for McDonalds and expect to wear a hat left over from my prior experience at Burger King. When in Rome, etc. etc. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-19-2006, 05:32 PM	#6
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	It's probably a statement to the muslims because they're the ones causing the majority of the problems. They want to keep out trouble makers, and guess what demographic just earned itself a place in that catagory __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-19-2006, 08:03 PM	#9
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	as... Oh no, Dana, Buddug says you pose as! Whatever shall you do!? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-19-2006, 08:08 PM	#11
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I sure hope Dana's a better representative of you lot than you are, buddug. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-19-2006, 08:10 PM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Jesus Christ, just ignore the thing. Trolls should be entertaining, at least. There is literally nothing to see here. Move along... __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-19-2006, 03:12 PM	#2
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	It's not a statement to immigrants.....it's a statement to moslems.

11-19-2006, 07:59 PM	#7
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	Dana C , I have not even bothered to read the above . You pose as

11-19-2006, 08:06 PM	#10
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	a British woman all the time . You try to sell what 'we' do in Britain to the Yanks on this forum . Except that I do not see you as being part of my 'we' . I stated this fact earlier , and your sugar-sweet coating soon disolved . I think you told me to destroy my private ( British) organs on a sharp stick ? I think that you and your ilk are part of a Trojan horse which menaces the free world .

11-19-2006, 08:12 PM	#13
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Aww, but its so fun tearing it limb from limb, over and over and over and over and over! __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-19-2006, 08:19 PM	#14
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	Dana is a Muslim who lives in Britain . There is no such thing as a British Muslim . Muslims put the idea of nationality behind their idea of being French / American / British or whatever . They see us as impure whilst enjoying the priveliges that our civilization offers them . They try to destroy our system from within . We have to understand this ( geez , I even feel friendly towards bloody Americans within this context )

11-19-2006, 08:20 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	When people are forced to give up part of their belief system, they are being asked to give up part of themselves. We live in a time where culture is being destroyed faster than ever before. Every 6 minutes a dialect is erased from the face of the earth. How much faster must this process become? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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