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Old 12-27-2006, 12:04 PM   #16
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..but the takeaway is that the church is subservient to jesus, as a wife is subservient to her husband. So much for celebrating the feminine.

By the way, can you guess who wrote this:
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If Jesus Christ (peace be upon Him) was present today, he would order an encounter against those who would propagate corruption, obscenity and perversion, and try to nullify and exterminate the merits and the rights of women and diminish their position – a position that virgin Mary (peace be upon Her) – is their role model and sample.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:14 PM   #17
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..but the takeaway is that the church is subservient to jesus, as a wife is subservient to her husband. So much for celebrating the feminine.

By the way, can you guess who wrote this:

i wish it was me, but the "peace be upon ...." blessing suggests to me that it was a muslim.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:33 PM   #18
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I'd heard that Ahmadinejad wrote a Christmas message, and this sounds a lot like his letter to W.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:34 PM   #19
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Google confirms:

http://www.president.ir/eng/ahmadine...02/index-e.htm

UT ftw, good one Pie.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:35 PM   #20
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UT got it.
Phil, you wackadoo -- you stay away from my rights and merits! Thank you for illustrating that all groups have their crazy emmer-effers.
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The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

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Old 12-27-2006, 12:40 PM   #21
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..but the takeaway is that the church is subservient to jesus, as a wife is subservient to her husband. So much for celebrating the feminine.
The Bride of Christ citatation would appear to be from the Catholic Catechism, which is scarcely an independent source of historical data.

The quote about Christian treatment of women coming from a Muslim is actually pretty damn funny, considering the status of women as property in most of the Muslim world.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:48 PM   #22
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maybe he meant?

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...he would order an encounter against those who would propagate corruption, obscenity and perversion, and
[Jesus would also] try to nullify and exterminate the merits and the rights of women and diminish their position...
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:57 PM   #23
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Yes, that is how I read it.
Oh! perhaps he was suggesting that JC was against women's rights... Okay, I invite clarification from Phil.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:19 PM   #24
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Doh! Yup, I misread it. It is a perfectly normal comment, once you read it right. Normal for a patriarchal, bass-ackwards philosophy, that is.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:32 PM   #25
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All I gotta say is if the Virgin Mary is the role model for all women---you boys better get to know Rosy and her five friends a lot better.


/muses/ I wonder if Amandinejad's mother managed to accomplish Virgin Birth? /muses/
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:02 AM   #26
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UT got it.
Phil, you wackadoo -- you stay away from my rights and merits! Thank you for illustrating that all groups have their crazy emmer-effers.

well ... i was right about it being a muslim! :p
and i do wish i had faith and wasnt a total atheist, so that i could delude myself that there is a god, and an afterlife, but i dont, and there it is.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:04 AM   #27
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Yes, that is how I read it.
Oh! perhaps he was suggesting that JC was against women's rights... Okay, I invite clarification from Phil.

Clarififcation : JC intended his church / message to be carried on through his most beloved and dedicated disciple, Mary Magdalene.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:35 PM   #28
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Hey, wait a minute....phil...Philistine ....Arrrhhhh clopclopclopclop..slam...pitter patter pitter patter...slam... pant pant pant
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:32 AM   #29
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Hey, wait a minute....phil...Philistine ....Arrrhhhh clopclopclopclop..slam...pitter patter pitter patter...slam... pant pant pant

suits me sir. :p
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:46 PM   #30
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Naw, you ain't scary....sorry.
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