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MaggieL · 01-21-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.

I'm still thinking "LaRouchie" where tw's concered.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-21-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

tw's not a democrat. tw's an anti-.

I think on a personal level he's anti-fun, too. Like being personally opposed to abortion but not willing to prevent someone else from having one.

Though the occasional minor chink has appeared in this wall...

I suppose the reason Lyndon LaRouche isn't once again a perpetual candidate is because of that felony conviction for credit card fraud.

yesman065 · 01-20-2007, 01:31 AM

xoxoxoBruce · 01-20-2007, 11:09 PM

By saying "first black" they cover both sexes with less verbage.

Toymented · 01-21-2007, 09:29 AM

While on Meet the Press this morning, Sen Ted Kennedy pledged his support to John Kerry, who has not even entered the race.

Hillary enjoys the top spot in the polls at this point.

Other strong candidates like Bill Richardson and John Edwards are in the race.

Why would the party look to an inexperienced newcomer like Obama?

Undertoad · 01-21-2007, 10:17 AM

Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.

The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.

Toymented · 01-21-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.

The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.

Is The Cellar endorsing here?

BigV · 02-13-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymented

Is The Cellar endorsing here?

You betcha!

By the way, Undertoad, how can I see the calendar items? I can only see birthdays. I am certain this is a classic case of operator error.

Thanks in advance.

Toymented · 02-13-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

You betcha!

Who will Obama pick as his running-mate?

TheMercenary · 02-07-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymented

Who will Obama pick as his running-mate?

Louis Farrakhan.

glatt · 02-08-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't.

The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.

I'm finally making up my mind. Virginia's election is Tuesday, and I'm gonna vote for Sen. Obama. I've had several thoughts about this but it all boils down to UT's quote above from over a year ago.

I think conservatives aren't too fond of McCain, and are less likely to vote in the general election because of that. But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her.

I don't think she has been treated fairly at all, but the reality is the reality. You can't pretend it isn't there. I doubt she can win in the general election against McCain, and even if she does win, she will face serious obstruction beginning her first day in office. She would have to fight for every scrap as President. There would be no honeymoon.

Remember all the protesters at Bush's first inaugural parade? I don't think that had ever happened before. You will have that again if Clinton becomes president. I really don't want a polarized country any more. I'm sick of it.

So I'm voting for Obama. He's not the magnet for hate that Sen. Clinton is. Plus, he's inspiring. That counts for a lot.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-08-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

snip~ But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her. ~snip

I think that's important. Going by the very unscientific method of counting the emails that mock and vilify Clinton, I'd say there is a very active hate Hillery movement.

lookout123 · 02-08-2008, 11:16 AM

if Hillary gets the nod, McCain will win. Not because the conservatives like him, but because she will unite them. It will be much like the D's in '04. Most D's deep down didn't care much for Kerry, but rallied behind him because of the deep hatred for Bush. The main difference is that the R's have much more effective vehicles for rallying the troops. Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingram, Coulter, and the rest will work night and day to defeat Hillary even though not a single one of them likes McCain. They have 8 years in the White House + her senate years to use as ammo in their quest to fire up the fear.

Obama just doesn't pull that type of reaction. Although he may in fact be further to the left than Hillary, he doesn't have all the baggage. The R machine will still try to rally the troops but they won't be able to stir up as much animosity. I expect that an Obama nod would see many conservatives just skip the election entirely figuring that McCain isn't much different than Obama so there really isn't any point. I would expect an Obama win.

If you don't believe me, consider that Rush has already been talking on those lines. He has suggested contributing to the Clinton campaign in the lead up to the convention. Sure he may be a reactionist jackass, but he has a following.

TheMercenary · 02-11-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I'm finally making up my mind. Virginia's election is Tuesday, and I'm gonna vote for Sen. Obama. I've had several thoughts about this but it all boils down to UT's quote above from over a year ago.

I think conservatives aren't too fond of McCain, and are less likely to vote in the general election because of that. But if Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee, they will all get out to the polls just to vote against her. Obama doesn't generate that kind of hatred. It's the "Billary" and "Hitlery Cliton" etc. comments here on the Cellar that have really opened my eyes. You conservatives really hate her.

I don't think she has been treated fairly at all, but the reality is the reality. You can't pretend it isn't there. I doubt she can win in the general election against McCain, and even if she does win, she will face serious obstruction beginning her first day in office. She would have to fight for every scrap as President. There would be no honeymoon.

Remember all the protesters at Bush's first inaugural parade? I don't think that had ever happened before. You will have that again if Clinton becomes president. I really don't want a polarized country any more. I'm sick of it.

So I'm voting for Obama. He's not the magnet for hate that Sen. Clinton is. Plus, he's inspiring. That counts for a lot.

I have conservative views on some issues, liberal views on others. I voted for Bush twice as the best bad choice from two very bad choices. Bush turned out to be a idiot and a sock puppet for the people under him. I can't stand Hitlery and will do my best to convince others that she is not the answer to our future as a country. I voted for Obama in the primary.

cowhead · 01-21-2007, 10:40 AM

well.. so much for that graphics I had been working on... "Vision 2020 Clinton/Obama".. or it's "As easy as ABC America for Barak and Clinton".. the actual graphics are on my other computer.. and it's all the way over there...

and as long as brownback stays far far away from the oval office I won't be all that violently upset.

01-20-2007, 11:09 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	By saying "first black" they cover both sexes with less verbage. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-21-2007, 09:29 AM	#5
Toymented Without Explanation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 63	Obama? Really? While on Meet the Press this morning, Sen Ted Kennedy pledged his support to John Kerry, who has not even entered the race. Hillary enjoys the top spot in the polls at this point. Other strong candidates like Bill Richardson and John Edwards are in the race. Why would the party look to an inexperienced newcomer like Obama?

02-08-2008, 11:16 AM	#13
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	if Hillary gets the nod, McCain will win. Not because the conservatives like him, but because she will unite them. It will be much like the D's in '04. Most D's deep down didn't care much for Kerry, but rallied behind him because of the deep hatred for Bush. The main difference is that the R's have much more effective vehicles for rallying the troops. Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingram, Coulter, and the rest will work night and day to defeat Hillary even though not a single one of them likes McCain. They have 8 years in the White House + her senate years to use as ammo in their quest to fire up the fear. Obama just doesn't pull that type of reaction. Although he may in fact be further to the left than Hillary, he doesn't have all the baggage. The R machine will still try to rally the troops but they won't be able to stir up as much animosity. I expect that an Obama nod would see many conservatives just skip the election entirely figuring that McCain isn't much different than Obama so there really isn't any point. I would expect an Obama win. If you don't believe me, consider that Rush has already been talking on those lines. He has suggested contributing to the Clinton campaign in the lead up to the convention. Sure he may be a reactionist jackass, but he has a following. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-21-2007, 10:40 AM	#15
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	well.. so much for that graphics I had been working on... "Vision 2020 Clinton/Obama".. or it's "As easy as ABC America for Barak and Clinton".. the actual graphics are on my other computer.. and it's all the way over there... and as long as brownback stays far far away from the oval office I won't be all that violently upset. __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

01-20-2007, 01:31 AM	#3
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847

01-21-2007, 10:17 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Because he beats the R field in some early polls, while Hillary doesn't. The guy has zero built-in negatives and world-class poise.

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