Not Quite a Death Ray, But... - Page 2

Shawnee123 · 01-26-2007, 02:41 PM

What if people held a war and no one came?

Undertoad · 01-26-2007, 02:41 PM

What statement would you take another way, other than "have a nice day"?

Elspode · 01-26-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

What if people held a war and no one came?

As screwed up as this world is, *someone's* going to come if there's a war. Probably twice, and without lube, too.

Elspode · 01-26-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Does it cause arcing in metal? Glasses, zippers, belts giving third degree burns, destruction of personal electronics like cell phones, hearing aids, pacemakers?

Yes...if you turn it up to 11.

Griff · 01-26-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

As screwed up as this world is, *someone's* going to come if there's a war. Probably twice, and without lube, too.

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

He did get some stick time enroute.

Now it begins to make sense.

The statement is: We will continue to use our military to control civilian populations rather than for doables like killing people and breaking stuff. Remember when Clinton was an idiot for getting us mixed up in Somalian politics...

Elspode · 01-26-2007, 08:07 PM

It wasn't just that. He got a blowjob in the Oval Office, for crying out loud. I mean, talk about trampling on the flag...

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Does it cause arcing in metal? Glasses, zippers, belts giving third degree burns, destruction of personal electronics like cell phones, hearing aids, pacemakers?

Unfortunately, I don't think they care.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

If they could make people actually catch fire, rather than thinking they might, they might have something there.

Or set off any ammo they're carrying.

MaggieL · 01-27-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

This could be a useful tool, but I fear the potential for abuse is very high. If it doesn't injure anyone, I think we'll see it being used on a lot of people indiscriminately.

Gee, If this was a "banning firearms" thread, we'd be hearing all about how non-lethal weapons should be preferred for self-defense.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2007, 06:57 PM

Go back and look at the picture. Hardly something you can put in your purse, so that leaves it to groups with authority and no fashion sense.

There is potential for great abuse, like preventing citizens from exercising their right of peaceful assembly (read protesting) .....without them even knowing who is doing it.

This thing is here, it's not going to be uninvented. But it's a worrisome weapon, because it can be used illegally with no evidence that would be needed to to take anyone to task for violating your rights.

01-28-2007, 06:36 AM

Sounds like a failed weapons system that they're trying to find another use for. If it had been powerful enough to sweep roads ahead of a convoy and detonate IEDs it might of had a more practical use.

Even back in the '80s, US Special Forces "A" Teams were trained in how to close on and destroy microwave based ground detection systems (like the ones we sold to Iran) without getting fried. I went through that program which uses actual working systems set up on a US installation. I don't see the item depicted here as being useful for much more than civilian crowd control when there is an element of surprise.

OTOH, if it's legal for riot control purposes, shouldn't it be legal for interrogation? Perhaps prolonged exposure to the effects of this device could replace waterboarding!

Kind of makes you go Hmmmm.

skysidhe · 01-28-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Thanks for that mental image Els - People jumpin and running all the while popcorn poppin and flyin.

hehe yep.

I see it too!

Kitsune · 01-28-2007, 08:12 AM

I'm showing up dressed like this to my next protest, just in case.

It'd be cool if I'd arc nicely.

MaggieL · 01-28-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

I'm showing up dressed like this to my next protest, just in case.

It'd be cool if I'd arc nicely.

Or just possibly the whole business might act as a waveguide to contain the part of the beam that hits your face.

Alternative possibility: The highly conductive foil heats up and melts.

Bonus Darwin Award points: It catches fire. (cf. HMS Sheffield and early versions of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle)

01-28-2007, 10:25 PM

It can be turned up to kill... they are just saying that they are not going to use it that way. I call BS.

01-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#16
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	channeling my hippie self What if people held a war and no one came? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-26-2007, 08:07 PM	#21
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	It wasn't just that. He got a blowjob in the Oval Office, for crying out loud. I mean, talk about trampling on the flag... __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

01-27-2007, 06:57 PM	#25
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Go back and look at the picture. Hardly something you can put in your purse, so that leaves it to groups with authority and no fashion sense. There is potential for great abuse, like preventing citizens from exercising their right of peaceful assembly (read protesting) .....without them even knowing who is doing it. This thing is here, it's not going to be uninvented. But it's a worrisome weapon, because it can be used illegally with no evidence that would be needed to to take anyone to task for violating your rights. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-28-2007, 08:12 AM	#28
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	I'm showing up dressed like this to my next protest, just in case. It'd be cool if I'd arc nicely. Attached Images

01-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#17
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	What statement would you take another way, other than "have a nice day"?

01-28-2007, 06:36 AM	#26
NoBoxes Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds like a failed weapons system that they're trying to find another use for. If it had been powerful enough to sweep roads ahead of a convoy and detonate IEDs it might of had a more practical use. Even back in the '80s, US Special Forces "A" Teams were trained in how to close on and destroy microwave based ground detection systems (like the ones we sold to Iran) without getting fried. I went through that program which uses actual working systems set up on a US installation. I don't see the item depicted here as being useful for much more than civilian crowd control when there is an element of surprise. OTOH, if it's legal for riot control purposes, shouldn't it be legal for interrogation? Perhaps prolonged exposure to the effects of this device could replace waterboarding! Kind of makes you go Hmmmm.

01-28-2007, 10:25 PM	#30
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	It can be turned up to kill... they are just saying that they are not going to use it that way. I call BS.

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