Horse and other meats - Page 2

Crimson Ghost · 02-17-2007, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Was that the Country Kitchen?

Are you referring to the one in AC, on the Boardwalk?

bluecuracao · 02-18-2007, 02:07 AM

Tonight (well, technically yesterday evening) I had some fantastic venison--pan seared medium rare, with a cherry sauce and sides of slow-burn chorizo potatoes and watercress. So, I take back that venison tartare is the best way.

I'm feeling very caveman-ish.

Spexxvet · 02-18-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost

Are you referring to the one in AC, on the Boardwalk?

No. I have vague memories of a restaurant on 202 maybe - somewhere west of Philadelphia, where we went once 35 years ago, that served "game". I think I had a hotdog. :p

jinx · 02-18-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Was that the Country Kitchen?

No, the Marshalton Inn.

Crimson Ghost · 02-11-2007, 02:31 PM

Remember -

3 lbs. venison to 1 lbs. 80% lean ground beef.
Keeps the venison moist while cooking it.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-11-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost

Remember -

3 lbs. venison to 1 lbs. 80% lean ground beef.
Keeps the venison moist while cooking it.

Pork works better.

Crimson Ghost · 02-11-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Pork works better.

Just depends on what ya prefer.

Hoof Hearted · 02-11-2007, 08:33 PM

I grew up only a mile or so from the Beefalo Ranch in Tracy, CA in the 70s(?). We would buy frozen boxes of beefalo burgers there. HUGE burgers that did not shrink at all when you cooked them! Taste was great.
StepDad fished/hunted and I've had Elk and Deer, though I don't care for deer and prefer elk stew, not steak. I've been told that elk is similar to horse meat in texture and lean-ness.

I have horses, and have owned horses for more than 35 years. I believe slaughter is necessary for the horses, though I would find it difficult to eat them, knowing they may have been someone's pet. Funny, that. I always named our butcher beef...though they were names like Sir Loin and Rumpy Roast.
IF, however, I ever make it to Iceland I would try horse there. They raise horse herds specifically as meat animals much as we do cattle and sheep. The quality Icelandic horses are the ones they train/ride/show/sell. If it doesn't gait, has poor conformation or has a poor temperament, it goes to the meat-herd. What a great cull-system to keep their breed pure and of high quality.

Anyway, it doesn't matter WHAT they are slaughtered for, human consumption, fertilizer, pet food...whatever...it is still slaughter. What difference the body is used for after the horse is gone?
People who love their horses and have the means available to them (some don't due to $ or local laws) will make arrangements to prevent their horse from going to a slaughter plant when the time comes (mine have been euth/buried) but the rest of the horses NEED the slaughter plants or they will suffer untold indignities of abuse and starvation because there is nowhere to go for an unuseable horse.
I do not think the non-human-consumption of horse carcass uses can absorb the overflow of the human-consumption carcasses that will now need to be utilized. I don't know what this will do to the sale prices where the killers purchased the unwanted horses for slaughter. How many people will be forced to take their unwanted horses home, and what will happen to them, then?

I would much prefer to see MORE slaughter plants across the country that accept horses and better shipping for the horses TO these plants. What this (slaughter for human consumption ban) may mean, is horses will now be shipped to Canada and Mexico, which have very few regulations and moral compuctions about handling, to be slaughtered.

Yeah, you bleeding-heart-activists, you've succeeded in halting slaughter of horses for human consumption in the USA, now the horses will have even LONGER trips in trucks, passing over borders into countries with few regulations, poorly trained staff and will suffer who-knows-what indignities before their end at whatever slaughter practice that plant uses.

I would prefer them to stay in the USA and meet their end at the hands of an employee who is trying to do a good job and not overly stress the animal while preserving its dignity.

Sorry for the lengthy horse-post. It struck a nerve.
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Shawnee123 · 02-11-2007, 03:32 PM

Bobcat Goldthwait: They keep saying "it tastes just like chicken. It tastes just like chicken" so buy a f*cking chicken, it's the cheapest f*cking meat you can buy.

02-17-2007, 07:41 PM

Tried most of them, not horse. I don't like how it smells when cooked.

bluecuracao · 02-17-2007, 08:23 PM

Maybe it would be better a la tartare.

DanaC · 02-11-2007, 05:02 PM

mmm Wild boar. I forgot about wild boar. Good sausages!

Beestie · 02-11-2007, 09:24 PM

I'm sure I must be missing something but I thought the big three meats were chicken, beef and pork with lamb a distant fourth.

I had ostrich carpaccio once. Tasted like ostrich.

Squirrel meat is too tough - no fat in it. Hyper little buggers.

Never had horse, elk, bison or beaver but have had snake, whale (long story) and shark.

Cloud · 02-11-2007, 09:35 PM

People will eat of lot of things, just not necessarily me. Guess I'm not a people. Or maybe I'm just a 14 year old girl.

I've eaten goat in the form of cabrito--Mexican barbequed kid. It was good. And that's really about it from the list--not even venison.

Specialty meets like bison and ostrich are starting to be available in our supermarkets due to lower saturated fat. I'm sure they're okay, but I probably wouldn't eat them. Don't know why--just 'cause. I once bought frozen rabbit meat, but could never bring myself to cook it.

. . . and I'm sure most horses are eaten by something. Just not Kentucky Derby winners.

Sheldonrs · 02-12-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

People will eat of lot of things, just not necessarily me.

I really think you should rephrase this one before some perv makes some cheap cra...oops! Too late! lol!!!

View Poll Results: Other Meats I have eaten
Rabbit	27	64.29%
Goat	24	57.14%
Elk	15	35.71%
Bison	30	71.43%
Kangaroo	10	23.81%
Horse	7	16.67%
Elephant	0	0%
Venison	36	85.71%
Beaver	3	7.14%
Squirrel	13	30.95%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-2007, 02:31 PM	#5
Crimson Ghost Larger than life and twice as ugly. Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,264	Remember - 3 lbs. venison to 1 lbs. 80% lean ground beef. Keeps the venison moist while cooking it. __________________ We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years

02-11-2007, 08:33 PM	#8
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	I grew up only a mile or so from the Beefalo Ranch in Tracy, CA in the 70s(?). We would buy frozen boxes of beefalo burgers there. HUGE burgers that did not shrink at all when you cooked them! Taste was great. StepDad fished/hunted and I've had Elk and Deer, though I don't care for deer and prefer elk stew, not steak. I've been told that elk is similar to horse meat in texture and lean-ness. I have horses, and have owned horses for more than 35 years. I believe slaughter is necessary for the horses, though I would find it difficult to eat them, knowing they may have been someone's pet. Funny, that. I always named our butcher beef...though they were names like Sir Loin and Rumpy Roast. IF, however, I ever make it to Iceland I would try horse there. They raise horse herds specifically as meat animals much as we do cattle and sheep. The quality Icelandic horses are the ones they train/ride/show/sell. If it doesn't gait, has poor conformation or has a poor temperament, it goes to the meat-herd. What a great cull-system to keep their breed pure and of high quality. Anyway, it doesn't matter WHAT they are slaughtered for, human consumption, fertilizer, pet food...whatever...it is still slaughter. What difference the body is used for after the horse is gone? People who love their horses and have the means available to them (some don't due to $ or local laws) will make arrangements to prevent their horse from going to a slaughter plant when the time comes (mine have been euth/buried) but the rest of the horses NEED the slaughter plants or they will suffer untold indignities of abuse and starvation because there is nowhere to go for an unuseable horse. I do not think the non-human-consumption of horse carcass uses can absorb the overflow of the human-consumption carcasses that will now need to be utilized. I don't know what this will do to the sale prices where the killers purchased the unwanted horses for slaughter. How many people will be forced to take their unwanted horses home, and what will happen to them, then? I would much prefer to see MORE slaughter plants across the country that accept horses and better shipping for the horses TO these plants. What this (slaughter for human consumption ban) may mean, is horses will now be shipped to Canada and Mexico, which have very few regulations and moral compuctions about handling, to be slaughtered. Yeah, you bleeding-heart-activists, you've succeeded in halting slaughter of horses for human consumption in the USA, now the horses will have even LONGER trips in trucks, passing over borders into countries with few regulations, poorly trained staff and will suffer who-knows-what indignities before their end at whatever slaughter practice that plant uses. I would prefer them to stay in the USA and meet their end at the hands of an employee who is trying to do a good job and not overly stress the animal while preserving its dignity. Sorry for the lengthy horse-post. It struck a nerve. hh __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

02-11-2007, 03:32 PM	#9
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Bobcat Goldthwait: They keep saying "it tastes just like chicken. It tastes just like chicken" so buy a fcking chicken, it's the cheapest fcking meat you can buy. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-11-2007, 09:24 PM	#13
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	I'm sure I must be missing something but I thought the big three meats were chicken, beef and pork with lamb a distant fourth. I had ostrich carpaccio once. Tasted like ostrich. Squirrel meat is too tough - no fat in it. Hyper little buggers. Never had horse, elk, bison or beaver but have had snake, whale (long story) and shark. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

02-18-2007, 02:07 AM	#2
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Tonight (well, technically yesterday evening) I had some fantastic venison--pan seared medium rare, with a cherry sauce and sides of slow-burn chorizo potatoes and watercress. So, I take back that venison tartare is the best way. I'm feeling very caveman-ish.

02-17-2007, 07:41 PM	#10
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Tried most of them, not horse. I don't like how it smells when cooked.

02-17-2007, 08:23 PM	#11
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Maybe it would be better a la tartare.

02-11-2007, 05:02 PM	#12
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	mmm Wild boar. I forgot about wild boar. Good sausages!

02-11-2007, 09:35 PM	#14
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	People will eat of lot of things, just not necessarily me. Guess I'm not a people. Or maybe I'm just a 14 year old girl. I've eaten goat in the form of cabrito--Mexican barbequed kid. It was good. And that's really about it from the list--not even venison. Specialty meets like bison and ostrich are starting to be available in our supermarkets due to lower saturated fat. I'm sure they're okay, but I probably wouldn't eat them. Don't know why--just 'cause. I once bought frozen rabbit meat, but could never bring myself to cook it. . . . and I'm sure most horses are eaten by something. Just not Kentucky Derby winners. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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