With Turnover High, Schools Fight for Teachers - Page 2

Shawnee123 · 08-28-2007, 08:37 AM

The days of the downtrodden underpaid teachers have been over for some time.

08-28-2007, 01:57 PM

Keep telling me why it is such a great job and then tell me what other career you have to have a second job to make it during your time off.
Also, teachers have to have continuing education, which we do during that break.
Speak of what you know.

When I say disruptive students I am talking about students that take too much time from the rest of class.
Yes, teach them in class, but there is a point where some kids refuse to learn, or cannot, and need special classes.
It is not fair to the students that CAN and WILL behave in classes to have their education sacrificed because administration refuses to empower teachers. It is a common problem because they don't want to "offend" the parents of the kids with the problem.
Most teachers will say "let me talk to them".

yesman065 · 08-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Keep telling me why it is such a great job and then tell me what other career you have to have a second job to make it during your time off.

When I say disruptive students I am talking about students that take too much time from the rest of class.
Yes, teach them in class, but there is a point where some kids refuse to learn, or cannot, and need special classes.

Thank you rk, that is a much better response. Very cogent, direct and succinct, unlike many of your recent posts. For example - what you just said to S123. You have some good points - just make 'em an move on - its not like she's tw or anything.

Shawnee123 · 08-28-2007, 01:58 PM

08-28-2007, 02:00 PM

Eloquent as always.
Edit:
Which is fine, I don't care if you don't know anything about it by choice, as long as you NEVER bitch about the state of young people where you live because of how you and your local society chooses to treat your teachers.

Shawnee123 · 08-28-2007, 02:11 PM

Ooooh, what if I do? I'm scared.

You don't know what I know and do not know. You're just doing what you always do, belittling and being a general jackass. Good enough for me!

08-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Ooooh, what if I do? I'm scared.

You don't know what I know and do not know. You're just doing what you always do, belittling and being a general jackass. Good enough for me!

As you call me a jackass, ROFLMAO!

Shawnee123 · 08-28-2007, 02:42 PM

This is all so sweet, I can barely stand the love. Group grope!

Undertoad · 08-28-2007, 04:10 PM

i ate a turnover high the other day, if it matters

xoxoxoBruce · 08-28-2007, 04:12 PM

Only if you can't remember what the flavor was AND can't find you other flip flop.

yesman065 · 08-28-2007, 05:50 PM

Oh like that'll make a difference - actually we all say that till we have them and have to pay for them.

9th Engineer · 08-28-2007, 06:38 PM

Not an issue at all. If some extra money means my kids won't have to sit there teaching themselves math while their teacher has to cater to some delinquent who doesn't give a rat's ass, then it's totally worth it. I can't solve the problem anyway, if can shield my kids, I will.

yesman065 · 08-28-2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Not an issue at all. If some extra money means my kids won't have to sit there teaching themselves math while their teacher has to cater to some delinquent who doesn't give a rat's ass, then it's totally worth it. I can't solve the problem anyway, if can shield my kids, I will.

I know where you are coming from 9th - the problem is a little reality sets in - the cost is very prohibative. I moved out of state to get into one of the best school ditricts in the region. I paid more for my house, my property taxes tripled and I'm still waaaay ahead on the cost end. Most importantly my kids have/are getting a great education(s). I drive further to work, deal with other issues and pay income taxes in two states blah, blah, blah - my kids are getting a great education! There are alternatives, thats my point. They just require some innovative thinking sometimes.

elSicomoro · 08-28-2007, 07:29 PM

I've been thinking about going to teach at our local community college...could be a good experience for me and the peeps to be taught, especially since I rule.

Seriously...I'm about to lose my fucking mind delivering pizzas. That's a job to nowhere, and my home business is nowhere near profitable (or even really together) at this point.

Shawnee123 · 08-29-2007, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

I've been thinking about going to teach at our local community college...could be a good experience for me and the peeps to be taught, especially since I rule.

Oh, come teach here! Come on, it'll be fun (for me!)

08-28-2007, 08:37 AM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	The days of the downtrodden underpaid teachers have been over for some time. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-28-2007, 01:58 PM	#4
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	__________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-28-2007, 02:11 PM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Ooooh, what if I do? I'm scared. You don't know what I know and do not know. You're just doing what you always do, belittling and being a general jackass. Good enough for me! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-28-2007, 02:42 PM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	This is all so sweet, I can barely stand the love. Group grope! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-28-2007, 04:12 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Only if you can't remember what the flavor was AND can't find you other flip flop. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-28-2007, 01:57 PM	#2
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Keep telling me why it is such a great job and then tell me what other career you have to have a second job to make it during your time off. Also, teachers have to have continuing education, which we do during that break. Speak of what you know. When I say disruptive students I am talking about students that take too much time from the rest of class. Yes, teach them in class, but there is a point where some kids refuse to learn, or cannot, and need special classes. It is not fair to the students that CAN and WILL behave in classes to have their education sacrificed because administration refuses to empower teachers. It is a common problem because they don't want to "offend" the parents of the kids with the problem. Most teachers will say "let me talk to them".

08-28-2007, 02:00 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Eloquent as always. Edit: Which is fine, I don't care if you don't know anything about it by choice, as long as you NEVER bitch about the state of young people where you live because of how you and your local society chooses to treat your teachers.

08-28-2007, 04:10 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	i ate a turnover high the other day, if it matters

08-28-2007, 05:50 PM	#11
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Oh like that'll make a difference - actually we all say that till we have them and have to pay for them.

08-28-2007, 06:38 PM	#12
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Not an issue at all. If some extra money means my kids won't have to sit there teaching themselves math while their teacher has to cater to some delinquent who doesn't give a rat's ass, then it's totally worth it. I can't solve the problem anyway, if can shield my kids, I will. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

08-28-2007, 07:29 PM	#14
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I've been thinking about going to teach at our local community college...could be a good experience for me and the peeps to be taught, especially since I rule. Seriously...I'm about to lose my fucking mind delivering pizzas. That's a job to nowhere, and my home business is nowhere near profitable (or even really together) at this point.

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