email clients

[MaggieL]

Originally posted by perth
i havent read too much regarding mozilla mail. is it a good client? im sure it does just about everything outlook does as far as filtering, etc. but is it relatively intuitive?

Actually, the filtering isn't quite as good as I'd like, especially since I'm running SpamAssassin; MozMail has no provision for running a third-party filter. So what I do here is use fetchmail to grab the mail from my ISPs POP, then use procmail to invoke SpamAssassin.

Then I use the MozMail client to wrk the mail locally though IMAP. Tobiasly: There's a *boatload* of stuff on Bugzilla relating to IMAP, so I have to agree that this part of Moz is "not really done yet". Still, it seem to be working good enough for me to use it. I just got fed up with kmail insisting on using konq for the browser.

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by MaggieL
So what I do here is use fetchmail to grab the mail from my ISPs POP, then use procmail to invoke SpamAssassin.

If my ISP only had POP, I believe I'd do the same thing anyway, just to get it in an IMAP server. Having all my email in one place w/ IMAP is so nice, compared to before when I had to use Hotmail (which is discontinuing free POP retrieval anyhoo) when I was away from home, and then my read and sent messages were scattered all over the place. Now I've got a hook in postfix to save all my sent messages, no matter where I send 'em from.

Good thing to know that at least they're working on the IMAP support, but yeah, it looks like I'll still be using OE for a while.

--toby

[MaggieL]

Originally posted by Tobiasly

Good thing to know that at least they're working on the IMAP support, but yeah, it looks like I'll still be using OE for a while.

Even if Moz.mailnews.Networking:IMAP isn't good enough for your situation (and I'll admit that having root on the IMAP server does cover a multitude of sins :-) ), I'd be very, very, very reluctant to run either OE or Outlook itself, simply because its security has such a completely crappy record to date.

I'd happily SSH to someplace where I could run Pine or Mutt rather than worry about what Outlook was doing behind my back.

And that, my friends, is how I get my email.

ssh to the mail server, mutt. Best email client <b>ever</b>.

[juju]

I use kmail.

Well, that's because you're a KDE queerio. GNOME is way better. So eat it.

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by MaggieL
Even if Moz.mailnews.Networking:IMAP isn't good enough for your situation (and I'll admit that having root on the IMAP server does cover a multitude of sins :-) ), I'd be very, very, very reluctant to run either OE or Outlook itself, simply because its security has such a completely crappy record to date.

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here.. but in my case, my cable modem goes directly to my Linux box, and so I just set up my own SMTP and IMAP servers, since I've never been 100% pleased with any ISP's email service.

At least now if it goes down, it's my own fault . (And since I own the domain and control the DNS info as well, I have my friend's hosting/design company -- spinweb.net -- set as the backup mail service, just in case.)

And I don't open my IMAP port to the outside; I either use webmail, or SSH in and port-forward. Which is also a necessity at work, because my employer has this silly firewall that only lets certain outgoing services through.

Having that SSH channel in between makes me feel much better, but you're right, I still have to be pretty careful about what I open in OE.

Ain't SSH just the greatest thing since sliced bread? I can use XP Remote Desktop and otherwise connect to my Windows machine without having it actually hooked up to a broadband connection.

--toby

[MaggieL]

Originally posted by Tobiasly

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here...but you're right, I still have to be pretty careful about what I open in OE.

You answered your own question. Running Outlook is like hanging an "Own me, hard" sign on your Winbox, unless you've got *really* competent filtering upstream. .

Ain't SSH just the greatest thing since sliced bread? I can use XP Remote Desktop and otherwise connect to my Windows machine without having it actually hooked up to a broadband connection.

It's one of the wonders of the modern world.

Of course, VNC kicks "XP Remote Desktop" butt, especially with compression and crypto turned on....which is why MS doesn't want you to run it.

http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc...er/025660.html

[Tobiasly]

I'd never used VNC before; is it really that much better?