Loyalty Oath - Page 2

TheMercenary · 05-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

soldier is different than teacher. what about postal carriers? municipal court clerks? dogcatchers?

"...and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic"

What are they going to do? Throw mail at them? Throw legal papers at them? Throw cats at them? Teachers? Throw pencils at them?

How the hell are they going to defend themselves out of a paper bag? At Berkley no less? I know, they could get those pink ladies that protested in front of the Marines to defend them and the Marines could stand by and watch them get slaughtered. Good luck on that one.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-05-2008, 07:37 PM

Bring on the brainwashing...

Its one stupid and two unenforceable.

I've been in contact with a teacher in California that is a proclaimed anarchist.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-05-2008, 10:37 PM

But if that teacher tries to promote anarchy to the students, through his/her teaching position, the oath is a gotcha. Termination with no convoluted excuses.

TheMercenary · 05-09-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But if that teacher tries to promote anarchy to the students, through his/her teaching position,

I think that is goal of Berkley.

Cloud · 05-09-2008, 05:13 PM

I went to Berkeley. Dropped out, too.

is anyone surprised?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-09-2008, 10:51 PM

Depends on why you dropped out.

Cloud · 05-09-2008, 10:54 PM

I entered college at 16, thousands of miles from my family and anyone I knew, got depressed (really, horribly depressed and didn't know enough to get help), and couldn't finish my classes. Went for 12 months, but sometimes--bigger is not better.

Eventually I got my degree elsewhere--that just was not a good year for me.

Does that make a difference in your assessment?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-10-2008, 07:32 AM

No assessing, you is what you post.
Just wondered if you were turned off by the Berkeley attitude/atmosphere, or personal matters, caused you to flee.

Sundae · 05-10-2008, 08:47 AM

BTW - if tutors are really promoting anarchy, would they really have a class to tutor after the first semester?

Cloud · 05-10-2008, 07:38 PM

Gee, thanks.

I think.

Cloud · 05-11-2008, 11:43 AM

Interesting point. Let me think about that for a while.

TheMercenary · 05-12-2008, 01:56 PM

Good stuff Rich. That is sort of how I remember it as well. But we have developed into a different animal since then. I can't buy that we shouldn't or can't morph a bit along the way. Agree?

05-05-2008, 07:37 PM	#2
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Bring on the brainwashing... Its one stupid and two unenforceable. I've been in contact with a teacher in California that is a proclaimed anarchist. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

05-05-2008, 10:37 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But if that teacher tries to promote anarchy to the students, through his/her teaching position, the oath is a gotcha. Termination with no convoluted excuses. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#5
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I went to Berkeley. Dropped out, too. is anyone surprised? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-09-2008, 10:51 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Depends on why you dropped out. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-09-2008, 10:54 PM	#7
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I entered college at 16, thousands of miles from my family and anyone I knew, got depressed (really, horribly depressed and didn't know enough to get help), and couldn't finish my classes. Went for 12 months, but sometimes--bigger is not better. Eventually I got my degree elsewhere--that just was not a good year for me. Does that make a difference in your assessment? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-10-2008, 07:32 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No assessing, you is what you post. Just wondered if you were turned off by the Berkeley attitude/atmosphere, or personal matters, caused you to flee. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-10-2008, 08:47 AM	#9
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	BTW - if tutors are really promoting anarchy, would they really have a class to tutor after the first semester? __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

05-10-2008, 07:38 PM	#10
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Gee, thanks. I think. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-11-2008, 11:43 AM	#11
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Interesting point. Let me think about that for a while. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-12-2008, 01:56 PM	#12
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Good stuff Rich. That is sort of how I remember it as well. But we have developed into a different animal since then. I can't buy that we shouldn't or can't morph a bit along the way. Agree? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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