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#16 |
I hear them call the tide
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Come on, cat.
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area
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8-5 McCain, but I still don't like him. I wish there was a candidate that didn't want to fuck up health care and did want to send the illegal immigrants to Dana's house...
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Read? I only know how to write.
Join Date: Jan 2001
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One has demonstrated who his people are by picking a VP that does not know what the Bush doctrine was AND then justifies Pearl Harboring of any sovereign nation only because we might feel threatened.
George Sr had to make those same concessions to get elected – to empower the extremists of his party to gain their support. Do we really need those same people justifying a unilateral attack on Iran only because we ‘feel’ Iran might be a threat? Sarah Palin gave us everything to see beyond the sound bytes. She represents the devil that McCain had to make a deal with. |
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#19 |
changed his status to single
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Right behind you. No, the other side.
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9-4 McCain. No real surprise there.
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#20 |
Goon Squad Leader
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
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Where have you looked?
Obama McCain These source documents. As close to the candidate's minds as we can get at this point. There's more to it than just their rhetoric, of course. I depend on fact checking sources as well. And I find second hand subjective analyses helpful, even necessary on most topics, since I'm not an expert in every field that interests or affects me. For those I turn to various news services in radio and print and television and on the intarwebz, too many and varied to list. Perhaps this is as good a first step as any. Keep reading, keep listening, keep talking.
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#21 |
Slattern of the Swail
Join Date: Jul 2004
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10 Obama, 3 McCain.
I will protect you, lookout, when the revolution comes.
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#22 |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Don't worry about me dear, you go on ahead. Somehow my childhood carried on through the Carter administration and I even did ok in the military during the Clinton years. I'll be ok. Besides if things get too bad I can just go to Mexico, right?
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Doctor Wtf
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Where your soccer skills will lead to a fulfilling career!
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Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl. |
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#24 |
We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
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Jinx, honey, if you're sending shedloads of Mexicans, can you make sure they're armed with tacos please?:P
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#25 |
The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Unlike Bush, who might have gotten you killed.
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#26 |
King Of Wishful Thinking
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
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Obama 10-3
I actually agreed with McCain's statement about the Supreme Court. I think he's lying considering his implied promise to appoint judges who will overturn Roe v Wade, but I agree with his statement.
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Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE!I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama |
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#27 |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Oh sure, but at least we knew he'd send in support. Clinton? Somalia? Blue Helmet duty? Don't fire even if the fuckers are throwing flaming bottles of kerosene at you? No thanks.
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#28 |
To shreds, you say?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet!
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a) according to dontvote.org I'm not allowed to vote with my 78% score
b) 10/3 O'bama c) There isn't a candidate who can make me happy anyway. The three McCain agree answers were the ones I felt more strongly about anyway. d) I would vote for another J Edgar Hoover if his agenda were campaign and government reform, rather than cross dressing.
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#29 |
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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3 - 10 McCain. It is still unlikely that I will vote for him.
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Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012! |
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#30 |
Radical Centrist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
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Yeah,
I always look at these sort of pickers as not giving us the whole story. They only tell you where the candidate stands on issues, not whether they have the leadership to actually try to accomplish things, which items will on the agenda and which simply will never be, what they are actually able to do from the office, whether they are unflappable under pressure, whether they can convince the people of what to do, etc. etc. I think a gut-level feeling about the people is a better predictor than random policy statements they've made. Similarly the quiz show failure of Ms. Palin. Of course she's underqualified. But does it even make a decent predictor of what sort of President she'd be if in office? Truman never went to college at all, ran a men's clothing store into the ground in three years as preparation for his station as Senator, which would lead to the VP selection after sessions of booze and poker played out of his office. He'd surely fail the quiz show format; and at the time they thought he was lousy as Pres; but history turned that around and now he's seen as one of the better ones. |
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