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[richlevy]

The problem with the 'possible felon' designation is that the Florida experience showed that this was fraught with error. It appears that if someone with your name was in prison in that state, they can challenge your vote and the onus is on you to prove that you were never a felon.

I don't want fraudulent votes, but I don't want fraudulent challenges either, and a part of me wonders if the anti-fraud campaign is a method for lowering legitimate turnout and pushing up wait times at the polls to discourage voting.

While arguments can be made for tactics like caging, more arguments can be made against it. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention giving up your right to vote because you weren't home to sign for a letter.

I agree that there will be a lot of challenges in this election. Thankfully after the disastrous results from the last two elections (and for once I'm not referring to who was elected), we came up with a clear procedure for provisional ballots. Forcing people in poor districts to wait for hours in line to vote as opposed to wealthier districts is in my opinion a violation of the equal protection clause.

There is a significant chance that provisional and absentee ballots will decide this election.

FYI, Tim Griffin, the GOP's current Deputy Head of Research was tied to voter caging by Monica Goodling during her testimony.

[TheMercenary]

The "felon" issue is not as big as the "dead people" and the blatant fraud by ACORN re-registering people over and over with slightly different names and paying them to do so. If they have to delay the results till all the names are vetted, so be it.

[Shawnee123]

Here we go again.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by richlevy

a part of me wonders if the anti-fraud campaign is a method for lowering legitimate turnout and pushing up wait times at the polls to discourage voting.

It's interesting being in a battleground state. Never happened for me before. The Obama volunteers are extremely active. They have called us at least a dozen times in the last few months. Our Democratic "neighborhood chiefs" sent us a letter recently urging us to vote early in order to help reduce wait times at the polls for others on election day. That had never occurred to me, but it's a great idea. Virginia has very lenient standards for early voting. The fact that I work in DC, and am out of my county for more than 11 hours of the day means that I'm eligible to vote early. I just voted today, which was way more convenient for me. Took 20 minutes and was on a Saturday. Plus I can also impact the election by lowering wait times slightly for others

I think one of the reasons that my household has been targeted so heavily is that we voted in a Democrat school board primary a couple months ago. Only 5% of the county voted in that election.

[TheMercenary]

Early voting has been a life saver and something they should have done years ago. We started early voting, this year, 4 weeks before the election, M-F.

[Cicero]

He must be looking at my ballot...lol! Did you know you can just write stuff in?

[Happy Monkey]

They're legally required to submit all forms that are filled out, even if one person fills out multiple forms. Even if it's an obvious fake, like Mickey Mouse. Filtering out names they don't like would be much worse than submitting extra names (who obviously won't be actually voting).

On the scale of voting problems, extra registrations are a nuisance, extra voting is a problem, and preventing legitimate votes is nefarious. Only the first and third are in any way common. If people were actually voting 72 times, the registration story would be background info for that story.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

They're legally required to submit all forms that are filled out, even if one person fills out multiple forms. Even if it's an obvious fake, like Mickey Mouse. Filtering out names they don't like would be much worse than submitting extra names (who obviously won't be actually voting).

On the scale of voting problems, extra registrations are a nuisance, extra voting is a problem, and preventing legitimate votes is nefarious. Only the first and third are in any way common. If people were actually voting 72 times, the registration story would be background info for that story.

More total Bull Shit. Flooding a election office with 6000 fake votes is an obvious attempt to overwhelm the system and suspect of voter fraud. I doubt there is a single registered republickin in the batch.

[TheMercenary]

Florida fucks the country again............

Florida Sun Sentinel

More than 30,000 Florida felons who by law should have been stripped of their right to vote remain registered to cast ballots in this presidential battleground state, a Sun Sentinel investigation has found.

Many are faithful voters, with at least 4,900 turning out in past elections.

Another 5,600 are not likely to vote Nov. 4 — they're still in prison.

Of the felons who registered with a party, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I find it hard to believe the state doesn't know the Social Security numbers of the felons they've incarcerated. I find it easy to believe the state hasn't bothered to clean their voter roles, as nobody gives a shit about them till election time.

I wonder if the felons get called for jury duty?

If the election board can't clear all the names before the election, have those people vote on paper ballots and hold the ballots until they can clear the names.

If the difference in the vote count, between the winner and loser is greater than the held paper ballots, go with that result. If it's not, hold the final count until the names are cleared.

If the result of the Presidential election were delayed a week or two, I'll bet when the next election rolled around, they'd have their shit together.
There's no reason they can't set a registration deadline, say, three months before the vote, and staff the board with enough people.

[Cicero]

Nevermind.

[Shawnee123]

Early voting is stupid. A lot can change in a month, but you've already voted when you find out Candidate A is actually an outer space alien with a book called To Serve Man, which is actually a cookbook.

What happened to having to work for your vote, getting up early or stopping after a long day of work? Maybe waiting in line? It MEANS something, you've had to make an effort. If you absolutely can't be there, that's what absentee ballots are for.

Next thing they will come to each and everyone of our residences, ask who you want to vote for, then fill in a ballot for you. No risk of tampering there. Let's start mid-summer to avoid the cold weather.

I don't know that I want voting to be the easiest thing on earth. Make people work a little for their vote. Is there a better feeling than walking out of the voting area on election day, knowing you did your part as a citizen, knowing it meant enough to you to make the effort?

Eh, unpopular opinion, I'm sure.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

More total Bull Shit. Flooding a election office with 6000 fake votes is an obvious attempt to overwhelm the system and suspect of voter fraud. I doubt there is a single registered republickin in the batch.

Maybe, maybe not. But the fact remains that they're legally required to turn in every form they get.

You seem to like to toss out the term "bull shit", and then not respond to the post you're quoting.

This isn't the first time that GOTV people have been paid by the signature. If it had led to people voting 72 times, that would be the story. As it is, ACORN threw their money away, and the guy who signed up 72 times has a bit of extra cash. Maybe they thought it was worth it if it made their stats look good for future monetary supporters.

[classicman]

No make it really easy to vote - lets all just do it on the interwebz. Oh wait thats discriminating against those that don't have computers.

We can't make it inconvenient, too many people don't vote as it is. We have to make it easy for everyone - lets just have the Gov't send people drive around to collect votes. That way the people who are "too busy" can have their vote counted. Hell, they won't have to drag the crack whores outta the subsidized housing either - they'll just show up and show them where to mark the ballot.

I agree with you S123 - I enjoy voting and take a lot of pride knowing that I have a say, no matter how small. Its a privilege that too many in this country don't appreciate.

[Cicero]

New Bumper sticker: I am a crack whore and I vote!