Rod Blagojevich (D) - Page 2

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-13-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

I believe that the original posting in this thread was intended to indicate that Democratic crooks are somehow more obvious, natural and frequent than any other kind.

My problem with the Democrats is not that they're crooked -- no one here takes any view of politicians other than from the skeptical to the downright jaundiced. Congress' approval ratings are still in the cellar, if not the teens.

My problem is the leadership of the Democrats just isn't very wise, and has had zero success in advancing democracy around the globe since Truman. Truman left office in 1954. That's a long time of failure. At the end of the day, indefensible. Socialism is the road of currency debasement and thus unwisdom, and the Dem Party is in thrall to its socialists. Unwisdom. Bureaucracy is the Dem Party's solution to every problem, real or imagined. Unfortunately, it's not the way to get something done, or services provided. Bureaucracy is a pretty fair pre-Internet way to move information around, but its natural tendency is to inertia and it overly limits effort and problemsolving in its attempts to plan, budget, and administer. Paring bureaucratic tendencies away from a society makes that society more dynamic and endows it with a livelier economy.

By contrast, the Republicans have been the ones to win democracy's battles for us, and to fight wars as if they intended to win them -- which a good many senseless people think is just criminal somehow. Can't see the how myself -- only that some American bozos don't want us winning. They suck, and blindly too. Amazing just how angry they become when their inadequacy of thought is ranged before them beyond mistake. Anybody would think they whore after a false god.

And yes, the Reps are about as enamored of bureaucracy as the Dems are. I'd hate to have to live on any difference there. No wonder I profess Libertarianism as my political persuasion, despite objections from certain parties.

ZenGum · 12-13-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Congress' approval ratings are still in the cellar, if not the teens.

You watch what you sayin', buster! We don't allow no congressmen in here!

Undertoad · 12-13-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

My problem is the leadership of the Democrats just isn't very wise, and has had zero success in advancing democracy around the globe since Truman. Truman left office in 1954.

Ah - ahhhh - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Bosnia!

I'm sorry, I have a cold.

lookout123 · 12-10-2008, 10:53 PM

Wolf has it right. This is chicago (illinois really but all the big guys come out of chicago) through and through. the last governor is still in prison. The mayor's office isn't exactly know for great ethics. chicago politicians only stick out if they aren't crooks.

melidasaur · 12-10-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Wolf has it right. This is chicago (illinois really but all the big guys come out of chicago) through and through. the last governor is still in prison. The mayor's office isn't exactly know for great ethics. chicago politicians only stick out if they aren't crooks.

Yes!!!! I knew that if I came to the cellar today and there was a thread on Blowfish, I would have to comment.

He is the worst governor ever. Voters in Chicago suck because what they do impacts the rest of the state - Do Chicagoans and the people that occupy the 'burbs (tiny hellholes, IMO) even KNOW that there is more to Illinois than just them? NO! That's why every single person that is elected, appointed, whatever to an important public office in this state is CORRUPT - the most corrupt part of the state carries the most vote.

We're not perfect down here in Central Illinois - or "the South" as the Chicago morons refer to our part of the state, but at least we are honest and not corrupt.

Let's see - who in Chicago/Illinois politics has gone to jail - Gov. Ryan, Dan Rostenkowski, three other governors who's pictures were in the paper and I can't remember their names... this state totally sucks!

This would never happen if the Chicago area citizens would get their heads out of their butts and realize that THERE IS MORE TO ILLINOIS THAN THEM!!!

My apologies to anyone that lives in Chicago and the 'burbs - I used to live in a particular one called Libertyville - hated it. I'm sure you're all nice people, I am just so steamed that people like him get elected in this state.

I'm glad he's gone

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TheMercenary · 12-12-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Wolf has it right. This is chicago (illinois really but all the big guys come out of chicago) through and through. the last governor is still in prison. The mayor's office isn't exactly know for great ethics. chicago politicians only stick out if they aren't crooks.

Correct.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-10-2008, 11:30 PM

I'm laying a little stress on the man's party because numerous major newspapers and television news operations both local and national have apparently been at pains to omit or muffle any mention he's a Democrat. This reticence likely would not be the case were he a Republican, as previous scandals show. The vast majority of journalism-school grads, their professors, and working journalists are of the Democratic persuasion, and heavily support Democratic candidates. To put it mildly, they are suspected of a systemic bias in favor of the Democratic Party. It does seem there are too few Republicans in the news media, let alone Libertarians.

So, we do what we can to correct these little imbalances and lapses. And we smile. Schadenfreude, Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium...

lookout123 · 12-11-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

This reticence likely would not be the case were he a Republican, as previous scandals show. ...

I'll agree with UG *grabs heart* on this. If he were an R, then the news stories would have read, Republican Govenor Blowfish arrested on corruption... I think they're all crooks regardless of party but on this one detail UG is correct.

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and then I read his post on the second page.

Because I haven't lived in Illinois (also known as outer Chicago) for a number of years I didn't remember whether he was R or D. The day the news story hit I was curious and I didn't find the answer until the fourth article I read on the issue. That, rather than Fox News, is where I got my impression of the situation.

Aliantha · 12-10-2008, 11:34 PM

Well the CBS broadcast didn't. In fact they alluded to lots of communication between he and Obama even, along with his secretary of state. They clearly demonstrated the fact that he was a dem.

What news were you watching UG?

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-10-2008, 11:38 PM

New York Times is reported to have mentioned it subfusc, fourth paragraph. NBC News is reported not to have mentioned it at all.

Fox News keeps tabs on this kind of action by other news outlets, and, well, mentions it when and if. They note that a similar grudging revelation would not be the case when it's a Republican. It would instead be enthusiastically ballyhooed.

But to the wise man, the media's case for Republicans being mean ole repressoids just isn't proven, which is why all the Republican = Stupid unquestioned assuming in the Cellar suggests brains are not at work.

Between the findings of the Media Research Center and of Fox News, the case for American media bias is damning. The bias should be expected, and taken into account.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-11-2008, 12:52 AM

Your bias should be expected, and taken into account.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-13-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Your bias should be expected, and taken into account.

Yours as well. I could offer some suggestions about where you might take your bias and what you might do with it.

"As for me and my house," we find the Democratic Party a regular, routine disappointment.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-13-2008, 02:13 AM

Your lies are still lies. Go back and read post 38.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-13-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Your lies are still lies. Go back and read post 38.

If there were any lies, I suppose that might be true.

Stop being an idiot, Bruce, for I know you can. All three digits of the IQ, if you please. I know you have them. Pour the Kool-Aid into the gutter; it's not good for your brain.

I never write anything in here, other than jokes, that is anything less than truth as I've been given to understand it. An inability to recognize or value this on your part, Bruce, doesn't exactly add up to a deficiency on mine, now does it? You could always become an enlightened man... then great vistas open. Stop looking for excuses to fight me unless dickhead really is your life's goal.

A truth is, Blagojevich is venal. And it looks like he's hard even for the Chicago Democratic machine to swallow, and there are calls for his impeachment, as well as for his pro tem removal from office because he's too crippled politically to govern.

Flint · 12-11-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

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. . . You're an idiot.

12-10-2008, 10:53 PM	#4
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Wolf has it right. This is chicago (illinois really but all the big guys come out of chicago) through and through. the last governor is still in prison. The mayor's office isn't exactly know for great ethics. chicago politicians only stick out if they aren't crooks. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-10-2008, 11:30 PM	#7
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I'm laying a little stress on the man's party because numerous major newspapers and television news operations both local and national have apparently been at pains to omit or muffle any mention he's a Democrat. This reticence likely would not be the case were he a Republican, as previous scandals show. The vast majority of journalism-school grads, their professors, and working journalists are of the Democratic persuasion, and heavily support Democratic candidates. To put it mildly, they are suspected of a systemic bias in favor of the Democratic Party. It does seem there are too few Republicans in the news media, let alone Libertarians. So, we do what we can to correct these little imbalances and lapses. And we smile. Schadenfreude, Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium... __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

12-10-2008, 11:34 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well the CBS broadcast didn't. In fact they alluded to lots of communication between he and Obama even, along with his secretary of state. They clearly demonstrated the fact that he was a dem. What news were you watching UG? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-10-2008, 11:38 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	New York Times is reported to have mentioned it subfusc, fourth paragraph. NBC News is reported not to have mentioned it at all. Fox News keeps tabs on this kind of action by other news outlets, and, well, mentions it when and if. They note that a similar grudging revelation would not be the case when it's a Republican. It would instead be enthusiastically ballyhooed. But to the wise man, the media's case for Republicans being mean ole repressoids just isn't proven, which is why all the Republican = Stupid unquestioned assuming in the Cellar suggests brains are not at work. Between the findings of the Media Research Center and of Fox News, the case for American media bias is damning. The bias should be expected, and taken into account. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 12-10-2008 at 11:44 PM.

12-11-2008, 12:52 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Your bias should be expected, and taken into account. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-13-2008, 02:13 AM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Your lies are still lies. Go back and read post 38. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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