9/11 Jokes

[lumberjim]

ya know what goes without saying?

mimes.

that's what

[Pie]

Okay, I'll go first.

"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"It's.... Oh shit, it IS a plane!"

Yes, I am a horrible American.

[Trilby]

9/11 jokes are like Holocaust jokes - they're in really, really bad taste.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Brianna

9/11 jokes are like Holocaust jokes - they're in really, really bad taste.

Apparently, there are some.

[Elspode]

Mass incineration of innocent people is only funny when it happens to someone else in another country.

[SteveBsjb]

Originally Posted by Brianna

9/11 jokes are like Holocaust jokes - they're in really, really bad taste.

Thus this thread was created to explore this. I think it's an excellent thread topic, makes people think about why it's okay to make jokes about John Denver the day after his death, but not other tragedies.

[Sundae]

I've heard a couple over the years.
None funny enough for me to remember, but they're out there sure enough.

It's not quite the same for Brits though, as it did happen in someone else's country. In fact the only "joke" I am aware of about the 7 July Tube bombing in London was read on here. I didn't find it funny, but that's more to do with the awful stereotyping rather than the subject matter. Well, maybe the subject matter, I rode the Tube every day after all and those streets were in my home town.

[Undertoad]

Only because we allowed it to.

That's such crap. I can't believe you're taking this line. I'm furious. Start with the loss of 251 stories of the most prime office space in the country and the devastation of the travel and airline industries. "We allowed it to," I don't think so. In fact "we" prevented the destruction of the White House because passengers onboard Flight 93 were not content to sit back and let their fate be decided for them. That's the attitude you find elsewhere in the world. In most of it, actually.

You want a culture that reacts to that with "Oh well, these things happen!" You want to tell people "Get over it!" And yet you want a culture that makes itself, if not the rest of the world, safe for freedom and democracy. This culture does not and can not exist. The Jacksonian vibrancy of the American people, which made the country what it is, also informs its reaction. When we are hit, the instinct is to react with killing blows. We are the ones that take back Flight 93. Meet that with pride, not cynicism.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That's such crap. I can't believe you're taking this line. I'm furious. Start with the loss of 251 stories of the most prime office space in the country and the devastation of the travel and airline industries. "We allowed it to," I don't think so. In fact "we" prevented the destruction of the White House because passengers onboard Flight 93 were not content to sit back and let their fate be decided for them. That's the attitude you find elsewhere in the world. In most of it, actually.

You want a culture that reacts to that with "Oh well, these things happen!" You want to tell people "Get over it!" And yet you want a culture that makes itself, if not the rest of the world, safe for freedom and democracy. This culture does not and can not exist. The Jacksonian vibrancy of the American people, which made the country what it is, also informs its reaction. When we are hit, the instinct is to react with killing blows. We are the ones that take back Flight 93. Meet that with pride, not cynicism.

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time. If it makes you feel better, your miss-use of the focused bravery of the passengers of Flight 93 makes me furious. The culture you describe is cowering in the back of the plane waiting for someone else to do something. The culture I'm trying to describe acknowleges the tragedy, but doesn't delude itself that it was the worst event ever. It gets back up and gets back to work on America. Fortunately, most Americans have done just that.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time.

We did. And we still are. Anywhere, anytime.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Griff

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time.

I'm pretty sure we are having different arguments. I'll leave you to yours.

[xoxoxoBruce]

It was a much more traumatic event, worldwide, than the numbers will look like to future historians. It's been topped in casualties and property damage but not in historical importance, before.

We've been attacked before and probably will be again, but we'll survive and endure. I just regret our response was mismanaged and sidetracked.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It was a much more traumatic event, worldwide, than the numbers will look like to future historians. It's been topped in casualties and property damage but not in historical importance, before.

We've been attacked before and probably will be again, but we'll survive and endure. I just regret our response was mismanaged and sidetracked.

I don't think our inital response was mismanaged that poorly nor was it incorrect, but we were completely sidetracked by Iraq. That was a fiasco. To late for that. It is our tarbaby for the foreseable future.

[TheMercenary]

What UT said. Total load of bullshit.

Pearl Harbor, who gives a crap. Right?

[lumberjim]

resiliency allows us to reassemble the airline business, and redistribute the office space and financial industry's infrastructure.

but for the most part, the people allowed the government to use the media to shape our expectation of what personal liberty we enjoy ....because of the reaction we had to the invasion.

It's ok for them to pull you out of line at the airport or a sporting event and pat you down. It makes sense to us because we see the scary potential results of NOT allowing it to happen. If it was 1991 and you were treated that way in an airport, you'd have been irate.....

in fear, we sacrifice our freedom.
to feel safe, we submit to authority
we're too busy working to see it
we'd rather watch TV than hear it