Anonymous Mom, No Dads, + 14

[DanaC]

Doesn't somebody have a duty to do a background check before going ahead with a procedure like that?

[awalshe09]

I have to agree! The doctor should be questioned! I think that this woman is unstable. Who in their right mind wants 14 children? It's dangerous to the babies and who will pay for the medical attention they will/and/or do need! Oh, I guess the TV sponsors she has been interviewing. She, reportedly, she sold pictures of the babies to the highest bidder! Perhaps she saw that reality show with the sextuplets and figured that it was a good way to make money. Not far off the puppy mill scenario. I could go on and on, but I'll stop here. Shameful.
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[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Doesn't somebody have a duty to do a background check before going ahead with a procedure like that?

Meh... it's not illegal to have a stupid number of children. (It'll probably even get you your own television show.) But seriously, would you have been okay with it if she happened to end up with only one or two babies from the procedure, for a total of 7-8 kids? That many kids used to be relatively common, even. They strongly advised her to reduce (i.e. abort some of them) after they found out how many were gestating. She chose not to. You can't force an abortion on someone.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Meh... it's not illegal to have a stupid number of children. (It'll probably even get you your own television show.) But seriously, would you have been okay with it if she happened to end up with only one or two babies from the procedure, for a total of 7-8 kids? That many kids used to be relatively common, even. They strongly advised her to reduce (i.e. abort some of them) after they found out how many were gestating. She chose not to. You can't force an abortion on someone.

I wouldn't. We have got to put a curb on birth rates. The planet simply cannot continue supporting the population that is here now, much less the rate of growth. Do you realize the population has doubled since Kennedy was president?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I wouldn't. We have got to put a curb on birth rates. The planet simply cannot continue supporting the population that is here now, much less the rate of growth. Do you realize the population has doubled since Kennedy was president?

Population growth is hard to curb and a full out attempt will most likely cause a backlash just as great as the original problem. Not to mention that we are going into the world of telling how many babies a person can have.

Though, I do believe we should work on curbing population growth, but we have to be smart and rational about it. Another large part of this is that we need to become much more efficient with food, water, and energy. We need to start investing massive amounts into those sectors (engineering in general) if we want to avoid major problems in the future.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Population growth is hard to curb and a full out attempt will most likely cause a backlash just as great as the original problem. Not to mention that we are going into the world of telling how many babies a person can have.

While I believe in personal freedom and I believe people should basically have the right to do pretty much whatever they want, as long as they aren't harming anyone else or doing damage, I have no problem going into the territory of forced control of the number of kids people can have. My god, if you want more, adopt. There are plenty of poor, unwanted kids out there.

Though, I do believe we should work on curbing population growth, but we have to be smart and rational about it. Another large part of this is that we need to become much more efficient with food, water, and energy. We need to start investing massive amounts into those sectors (engineering in general) if we want to avoid major problems in the future.

Yes. I believe we need to get serious about alternative energy and electric cars. Instead of importing so much food, we should be supporting local organic farmers. We need to start making things in this country again. Shipping massive consumer goods all the way from China and India is just not efficient.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Meh... it's not illegal to have a stupid number of children. (It'll probably even get you your own television show.) But seriously, would you have been okay with it if she happened to end up with only one or two babies from the procedure, for a total of 7-8 kids? That many kids used to be relatively common, even. They strongly advised her to reduce (i.e. abort some of them) after they found out how many were gestating. She chose not to. You can't force an abortion on someone.

In certain European countries, particularly Italy and Germany, the limit on the number of embryos allowed to be implanted at once is three, said Robert George, professor at Princeton University and member of the U.S. President's Council on Bioethics. George advocated following those countries' examples so that similar situations don't arise and put the lives of mother and fetuses at risk.

"If she went to a fertility clinic, there's wide consensus from every single ethicist and fertility specialist that this was irresponsible and unethical to implant that many embryos," said M. Sara Rosenthal, bioethicist at the University of Kentucky's College of Medicine. "This is an outrageous situation that should not happen."

CNN article

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

On top of that she was already in some kind of financial trouble.

Where did you read that?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Where did you read that?

It was on the TV last night. I will look around.

[TheMercenary]

Court records show Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors' meeting, the case was dismissed. She reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns in Whittier.

The births were a hot topic of conversation on the Internet, with many people incredulous that a woman with six children would try to have more — and that a doctor would help her do so. Some criticized the doctor and suggested that the mother would be overwhelmed trying to raise her brood and would end up relying on public support.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...fzBIQD961UN600

[TheMercenary]

We need a good metorite strike. Clean things up a little.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

We need a good meatball strike. Clean things up a little.

fixed
Ramen.

[Sundae]

I would also suggest that one at a time would allow you to take stock. At the very least because you'll have to find the time to go and and find someone to knock you up, while leaving the first seven at home.

You might find both your body and your common sense (wass that?) kick in after the eighth or ninth. Before the 14th at least.

[classicman]

Court records show Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors' meeting, the case was dismissed. She reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns in Whittier.

These kids which will bring notoriety and "financial assistance" certainly sounds like a crazy plan to get out. Hell she'll be featured on shows like Oprah and they'll pay for all kinds of stuff for her. Instead of helping those who REALLY need our (taxpayers) help we'll instead waste money on people like her.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

We have got to put a curb on birth rates. The planet simply cannot continue supporting the population that is here now, much less the rate of growth.

Well said.

[Shawnee123]

And the kids get these kinds of things:

Doctors say that giving birth to extreme multiples comes with tremendous risks for both the mother and the babies. Risks for the children include bleeding in the brain, intestinal problems, developmental delays and lifelong learning disabilities.

Selfish. Very selfish.