Eagles @ Cowboys

[bluecuracao]

This is going badly, because I came down with a cold and had to stay home today.

I hate Miles Austin now.

[TonyRomo]

get me out of the game!

[W.HI.P]

these players recieve a considerable amount of money and are all under contract to a franchise.
if the franchise wants to draft gerhart, they're gonna draft him, and they're gonna lose as many games as it takes to draft him.
players don't make these decisions, they do whatever the fuck they're told to do by the hand that feeds them.

but this topic is not so much about how a franchise is run, rather how there is something greater which overides all owners and franchises, and that of course, is the money of gambling, which is simply overwhelming, and in result, controls the result of any game on any given day.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

mumbo jumbo.....obfuscation......nonsense.....magical connections.....

you're crazy


in the brain

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

you're crazy


in the brain

well, my crazyness has brought me profit on a day where my favorite team lost big against my teams greatest rival.

instead of being a devestating night, it was profitable...how crazy is that

[xoxoxoBruce]

See, you're part of the problem.

[jinx]

Why do they care who they draft then, if money and not talent wins the games?

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by jinx

Why do they care who they draft then, if money and not talent wins the games?

i never said anything about winning.
the massive amounts of money that are wagered in the nfl, is on the pointspread.
they don't need to alter very much to be under or over a spread.

if there is the equivilant money of 2 nuclear bombs on the line, that will either end up in their hands or in the people's hands, which hands do you think it will end up in?

the nfl is in existance, and is funded by the money that is gambled.
the kind of balances that are in the air in each season, especially play-off time, is greater than the money that the nhl, nba, nfl, and mlb make combined.
this money is what its all about, and no grown men playing with a ball are going to mess with the balance of that money.
it is all under control, and the anual gross is greater than most countries make.
i guess the real question here is, who's on top of this pyramid?
i can tell you that they're not local

[Elspode]

Is it...The Illuminati?

So, let's summarize:

1) The ultimate outcome of NFL, and most other sports, is based on who gets drafted, which is in turn based upon who finishes last?

2) So much money is bet on NFL games (let's just leave it at that for the sake of argument) that it is bad business for the outcome of a given game, or at least the point spread, not to be known with certainty before the contest begins?

So, knowing what you know, please provide me with the winners of the first round of the playoffs? Because I can get by just on a win/lose bet easily, I don't need the riskier proposition of a bet on the spread.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

i never said anything about winning.
the massive amounts of money that are wagered in the nfl, is on the pointspread.
they don't need to alter very much to be under or over a spread.

Ok, my mistake, it's just the losing that's fixed, and the point spread, gotcha.
So what specifically do they do to not make the spread? What exactly do they alter? And who are they?

Also, why did the Eagles lose by so much (24-0)?

[Elspode]

That's easy...to increase the bets on the Cowboys to win, so that the odds are higher against the Iggles. Then, when they win the game, more money is there to be made. I think he referenced that concept earlier.

[xoxoxoBruce]

OK, granted there's money of Biblical proportions bet on each game, but the franchises aren't seeing that money. That's all peripheral to the actual teams, so they must be throwing games for draft choice.

Unless the gamblers are "tipping" the owners. Hmm, so when a franchise is valued at say a billion dollars, it's not because of TV revenues and t shirt sales.

[lumberjim]

nfl is not fixed. you should be

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

nfl is not fixed. you should be

you can believe that.
and when my eagles eliminate your cowboys next week, you can call it another coincidence.

[W.HI.P]

in 2007, the tampa bay rays finished in last place overall in major league baseball.
before the 2008 season, i pointed them out as the best team in the al east [ny yankees, boston red sox, toronto blue jays, baltimore orioles].
now, what are you saying exactly, that it was a lucky guess.
or could it be that they were one of the best teams in baseball in 2007, and even 2006.
i say, they finished in last place for several years in order to pick
3rd baseman longoria, starting pitcher price and short stop beckham.
if i'm correct, and in fact they were aiming for these draft picks, that means they lost many many games on purpose .....this is a type of fixing.
fixing that takes place in all sports that have the drafting system....nfl, nhl, nba