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footfootfoot · 12-05-2011, 10:42 AM

Look at the hyundais. Our 2004 sonata has 174k on it w/ no real problems beyond routine maintenance.

monster · 12-05-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

2002 Hyundai Elantra 105k $3995
2002 Kia Spectra 105k $3500

If the Korean cars are like Korean food, they'll smell like feet, but have plenty of interesting spice, and will burn a lot of gas the next day.

Thanks, but no way do we want a car that old. And I think those are over-priced for what you are getting and the risks you take with an old car. We had two 2001s we know just what was wrong with them and how to hide it. Cars that age and mileage are worn out imo. Asking for trouble. Glad you got lucky with the cellar car, but I want a little less on the clock and in time.

Undertoad · 12-05-2011, 11:33 AM

Yah, I'm just messin with ya at this point

- however -

Every car I've bought and expected to drive to death, I just got totally tired of what was wrong with them. Another year with these stupid stuttering brakes and I will rip my hair out.

On the Cellar Car I knew there would be things wrong, but I would fix them, get them fixed, or just live with it. It was a surprise that I then felt ok about them. The things wrong are almost fun quirks, not the pain-in-the-ass problems that might be the death of the car in 6 months.

Last winter J shoveled the snow off the Cellar Car with a shovel, and she put a bunch of nice lines on it where she took off a layer of paint, as you will do if you shovel snow off your car with a shovel. And I was like, ha ha, wow, if I was making payments on this I would be hugely pissed. Instead, it's just a laugh. It's car character. It's an improvement. What a revelation.

wolf · 12-05-2011, 12:13 PM

Wow, you sure got more than just transportation out of the Cellar Car, didn't you?

Undertoad · 12-05-2011, 12:21 PM

Still do.... most days it is still the second best thing in my life.

BrianR · 12-05-2011, 12:38 PM

I can't make a good suggestion, being as I haven't driven a small car since the Chevrolet Dent Magnet -er- Cavalier, but I will pass on a word of warning not to buy the Aveo. Everyone I know who had one (note the use of the past tense) has hated them and gotten rid of it as soon as possible.

Sundae · 12-05-2011, 01:00 PM

Dad had 2 Kia Picantos, did not serve him very well.
They were new cars, (bought as finance deals traded in as opposed to buying new off the forecourt). The electrics seemed to go every 3-4 months, back to the garage.

The Vauxhall they have now is too large for your needs, but so far it's been heads above the Kias. They bought it when the money from Auntie Alice came through, but it was well worth it.

I loved my Nissan Micra, the gearbox went but I had no other trouble.
And my two Peugeot 205s were still going even after I'd driven them into the ground. This is years ago now though, they're literally different cars.

One thing I noticed then and still do now is how many OLD Peugeots you still see on the road.
They seem to age well.

jimhelm · 12-05-2011, 01:16 PM

If you decide to look at the Versa, I can be of some small assistance. I've never driven one, but as I recall it does do pretty well when compared to the fit and the yaris. Mortie git a fit, razz got a yaris. Maybe they will chime in.

infinite monkey · 12-05-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Yah, I'm just messin with ya at this point

- however -

Every car I've bought and expected to drive to death, I just got totally tired of what was wrong with them. Another year with these stupid stuttering brakes and I will rip my hair out.

On the Cellar Car I knew there would be things wrong, but I would fix them, get them fixed, or just live with it. It was a surprise that I then felt ok about them. The things wrong are almost fun quirks, not the pain-in-the-ass problems that might be the death of the car in 6 months.

Last winter J shoveled the snow off the Cellar Car with a shovel, and she put a bunch of nice lines on it where she took off a layer of paint, as you will do if you shovel snow off your car with a shovel. And I was like, ha ha, wow, if I was making payments on this I would be hugely pissed. Instead, it's just a laugh. It's car character. It's an improvement. What a revelation.

My brother had a beater truck for messing around with (his main car is a work SUV), it was an old JEEP truck. Rusty, ugly...so ugly I loved it! Pieces falling off! If we got anywhere near it my brother would run over and act like he was buffing out where we had touched it. He'd say "sheesh, you can't have anything nice!"

zippyt · 12-05-2011, 01:29 PM

Nuthen like a good beater

infinite monkey · 12-05-2011, 01:31 PM

I'd love to have an old Jeep CJ7 for a beater.

glatt · 12-05-2011, 01:33 PM

If I had a beater, I'd want it to be a pickup truck. Not too much of a beater. It would need to start when I wanted to use it. But it could look like absolute hell, and I'd be fine with that.

Stormieweather · 12-05-2011, 01:57 PM

Hey Monster, what about something like a Toyota or Nissan pickup truck? Small, good gas mileage, reliable, and usefull as all hell!?

Ps...my first car was a Honda CVC. Just about square and could park it on the sidewalk, practically. Loved it! (But they don't make them anymore).

jimhelm · 12-05-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

I'd love to have an old Jeep CJ7 for a beater.

You literally cannot get one for less than $4k though. No matter how rusty and tired. Much better off going with a grand cherokee. You can get a daily driveable one for $3500, and a beater for $1500.

infinite monkey · 12-05-2011, 02:23 PM

Oh, if I get one I'll be in a position to get one. It would have to be free, or cheaper, to seriously consider one now.

12-05-2011, 10:42 AM	#16
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Look at the hyundais. Our 2004 sonata has 174k on it w/ no real problems beyond routine maintenance. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-05-2011, 12:13 PM	#19
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Wow, you sure got more than just transportation out of the Cellar Car, didn't you? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-05-2011, 12:38 PM	#21
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I can't make a good suggestion, being as I haven't driven a small car since the Chevrolet Dent Magnet -er- Cavalier, but I will pass on a word of warning not to buy the Aveo. Everyone I know who had one (note the use of the past tense) has hated them and gotten rid of it as soon as possible. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

12-05-2011, 01:00 PM	#22
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Dad had 2 Kia Picantos, did not serve him very well. They were new cars, (bought as finance deals traded in as opposed to buying new off the forecourt). The electrics seemed to go every 3-4 months, back to the garage. The Vauxhall they have now is too large for your needs, but so far it's been heads above the Kias. They bought it when the money from Auntie Alice came through, but it was well worth it. I loved my Nissan Micra, the gearbox went but I had no other trouble. And my two Peugeot 205s were still going even after I'd driven them into the ground. This is years ago now though, they're literally different cars. One thing I noticed then and still do now is how many OLD Peugeots you still see on the road. They seem to age well. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

12-05-2011, 01:16 PM	#23
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	If you decide to look at the Versa, I can be of some small assistance. I've never driven one, but as I recall it does do pretty well when compared to the fit and the yaris. Mortie git a fit, razz got a yaris. Maybe they will chime in. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-05-2011, 11:33 AM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yah, I'm just messin with ya at this point - however - Every car I've bought and expected to drive to death, I just got totally tired of what was wrong with them. Another year with these stupid stuttering brakes and I will rip my hair out. On the Cellar Car I knew there would be things wrong, but I would fix them, get them fixed, or just live with it. It was a surprise that I then felt ok about them. The things wrong are almost fun quirks, not the pain-in-the-ass problems that might be the death of the car in 6 months. Last winter J shoveled the snow off the Cellar Car with a shovel, and she put a bunch of nice lines on it where she took off a layer of paint, as you will do if you shovel snow off your car with a shovel. And I was like, ha ha, wow, if I was making payments on this I would be hugely pissed. Instead, it's just a laugh. It's car character. It's an improvement. What a revelation.

12-05-2011, 12:21 PM	#20
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Still do.... most days it is still the second best thing in my life.

12-05-2011, 01:29 PM	#25
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Nuthen like a good beater __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

12-05-2011, 01:31 PM	#26
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I'd love to have an old Jeep CJ7 for a beater.

12-05-2011, 01:33 PM	#27
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	If I had a beater, I'd want it to be a pickup truck. Not too much of a beater. It would need to start when I wanted to use it. But it could look like absolute hell, and I'd be fine with that.

12-05-2011, 01:57 PM	#28
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	Hey Monster, what about something like a Toyota or Nissan pickup truck? Small, good gas mileage, reliable, and usefull as all hell!? Ps...my first car was a Honda CVC. Just about square and could park it on the sidewalk, practically. Loved it! (But they don't make them anymore). __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

12-05-2011, 02:23 PM	#30
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Oh, if I get one I'll be in a position to get one. It would have to be free, or cheaper, to seriously consider one now.

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