New Über-Über Box - Page 2

That Guy · 01-18-2003, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
They have a 3.06 GHz P4 now. I'm just not getting one.

How about an AMD Athlon-64? I understand that the slated release is sometime in the next month or two.

That Guy · 01-20-2003, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blowmeetheclown
How about an AMD Athlon-64? I understand that the slated release is sometime in the next month or two.

Or even the Barton that I've been waiting so long for. I hear that they plan to push the Athlon-64 out until March just to give the Barton a little market time. By the time the 64 is out, expect the Barton to push 3500+. I guess I'll have to keep an eye on the tech sites for reviews. Let me know if you hear anything.

01-29-2003, 06:21 AM

Well, I got approval from the insurance company to go ahead and spend up to $3,273 - so I started buying parts. Here's what I've ordered so far:

Lian Li PC-61 case, Radeon 9700 Pro video card, Adaptec 19160 U160 card, power supply, 2 gigs of Crucial RAM, the floppy, the 2 73GB U160 drives, the 2 120GB 8MB Cache WD drives, the CD-RW drive, the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum, the black face plate for the Audigy drive and 4 Panaflo 80mm case fans. Total, with shipping, came to $2,519.99 and I'm still due to come out under budget (but just barely). I didn't order the motherboard because it was unavailable until 2/5/2003, and I didn't order the CPU because price cuts are just around the corner.

New Intel chips will be out in March; I'm debating as to whether or not I should wait and pick up a 3.06GHz at current 2.8GHz prices. The only thing the wait buys me is Hyper-Threading, which could conceivably be a bonus (time will tell). Since this will probably be the last PC I build for a long time, I want to make sure it's got top-end components. Especially since I'm not paying for it.

Anyway, parts should be here Friday and I'm looking forward to getting started with 'em. I'll keep this thread up to date.

jaguar · 01-29-2003, 10:32 PM

Man we're all upgrading - I'm looking forward to a P4 2.8/1GDDR/1.2Tb(6x200G in RAID 5 - so actual space is 1Tb), 12" Powerbook and 802.11g setup =)

01-30-2003, 05:29 AM

Yeh, it seems like I do this every year now. But I have a good excuse.

That Guy · 01-31-2003, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blowmeetheclown
How about an AMD Athlon-64? I understand that the slated release is sometime in the next month or two.

It's about friggin' time.
Anyone else interested to see how this thing turns out? I've heard some rave things about it. Seems to be a winner. Anyone??

Undertoad · 01-31-2003, 08:53 AM

In this column, Bob Cringely feels it will lead to nothing short of a demand from Microsoft that Intel license the technology from AMD.

That Guy · 01-31-2003, 09:02 AM

I thought about that, and how it would get AMD a place closer to the hand of the Don once is gets the nod from Bill. I just hope that Hector Ruiz didn't piss him off at LinuxWorld. We know how much MS has been trying to squash the potential of that for so long.
Then again, Dell offers Linux installations on many of their products. Does that matter to MS' bottom line? They're still making money it seems.

02-01-2003, 02:49 PM

I've taken some pictures of the parts I have so far (basically all of the main system except the DVD-ROM drive, processor and motherboard). I went ahead and uploaded 'em to here:

http://d.gaveup.org/images/p4box/

They're relatively large, but they'll be no problem for broadband users. A few choice shots:

Hard drive cage - 476k - This shows the hard drives that are going in to the system. There are two 120GB Western Digital "Special Edition" drives (left) with the 8MB cache. The other two are Fujitsu 73GB 10,000 RPM Ultra 160 SCSI. Each pair of drives will be cooled by a Panaflo 80mm high-output (39 CFM) fan. I realize that having them so close together may be an issue, so I'm going to monitor temperatures, and if they get too warm, I'll mount the two IDE drives in the other cage and spread the SCSI out. All told, I'll have 386GB of disk space in this machine.

Power Supply - 310k - This is an Enermax 431 watt PSU. It's got a lot of cool things about it, but one of them is that the fan in the back of the PSU can be controlled via a knob - so if the machine is running cool, I can turn down the fan to keep the noise down. The fan on the bottom of the PSU (visible) connects to a power source via a 3-pin standard fan header. I will be plugging it in to a PCMods.com Rheobus mounted in one of the 3.5" external slots, allowing me to control it in this manner. The PSU itself is a very dark blue, which I think looks cool.

Front bezel (close) - 618k - This shows the 52x CD-RW drive, the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum drive and the floppy. I wanted to get the Audigy 2 Platinum retail (includes drive) for a few reasons. One is that I had to spend $3,300 on a computer.

The other is that it has front FireWire, Toslink optical in & out and audio in that's easily available. I'll be using this machine and my PowerMac to do some pretty serious video editing and I can appreciate having all of the available ports.

That's pretty much all I've taken pictures of now - the other in the directory are just different angles and what not. Once I get the motherboard and processor, I'll put it all together and take more. Enjoy.

02-13-2003, 09:50 AM

I ordered the motherboard, processor and DVD-ROM drive today.

The P4G8x Deluxe is stupidly rare and therefore stupidly expensive. The price went up from $229 to $289. Hooray!

To compensate, I cut back to a Pentium 4 2.66 GHz CPU.

I decided to buy today because I really want to get money back from the insurance company (I have already spent over $3,100) and I figured it was better to spend $600 today and get the money back next week than wait a month and spend $500 (and be without the money in the mean time).

Plus, I want to have a fucking computer. I still have to clean the hard drives from <b>tier</b>.

Anyone got any name ideas for this box? I needa call it something.

wolf · 02-13-2003, 11:01 AM

Charlene?

02-13-2003, 11:10 AM

THIS IS MY PENTIUM. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE.

My favorite quote from the movie, however, is this:

"And why are you not allowed to have a jelly donut, Private Pyle?"

"Because I'm heavy, sir!"

"Because you're a disgusting fat body, Private Pyle!"

That Guy · 02-13-2003, 12:07 PM

"Hell hath no Fury...like Christine."
"How do you kill something that can't possibly be alive?"

02-28-2003, 02:37 PM

First post from <b>sonne</b>.

It's definitely pretty fast. I still have some modding to do to the case and a better organization of the wires, but the OS is installed and everything seems to be working fine. I'll know more after I get it home and hook it up to a real setup - I'm at work now. But so far, so good.

elSicomoro · 02-28-2003, 06:02 PM

Why "sun?"

01-29-2003, 10:32 PM	#19
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Man we're all upgrading - I'm looking forward to a P4 2.8/1GDDR/1.2Tb(6x200G in RAID 5 - so actual space is 1Tb), 12" Powerbook and 802.11g setup =) __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

02-13-2003, 11:01 AM	#26
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Charlene? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-13-2003, 12:07 PM	#28
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	"Hell hath no Fury...like Christine." "How do you kill something that can't possibly be alive?" Last edited by That Guy; 02-14-2003 at 07:50 AM.

01-29-2003, 06:21 AM	#18
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I got approval from the insurance company to go ahead and spend up to $3,273 - so I started buying parts. Here's what I've ordered so far: Lian Li PC-61 case, Radeon 9700 Pro video card, Adaptec 19160 U160 card, power supply, 2 gigs of Crucial RAM, the floppy, the 2 73GB U160 drives, the 2 120GB 8MB Cache WD drives, the CD-RW drive, the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum, the black face plate for the Audigy drive and 4 Panaflo 80mm case fans. Total, with shipping, came to $2,519.99 and I'm still due to come out under budget (but just barely). I didn't order the motherboard because it was unavailable until 2/5/2003, and I didn't order the CPU because price cuts are just around the corner. New Intel chips will be out in March; I'm debating as to whether or not I should wait and pick up a 3.06GHz at current 2.8GHz prices. The only thing the wait buys me is Hyper-Threading, which could conceivably be a bonus (time will tell). Since this will probably be the last PC I build for a long time, I want to make sure it's got top-end components. Especially since I'm not paying for it. Anyway, parts should be here Friday and I'm looking forward to getting started with 'em. I'll keep this thread up to date.

01-30-2003, 05:29 AM	#20
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Yeh, it seems like I do this every year now. But I have a good excuse.

01-31-2003, 08:53 AM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	In this column, Bob Cringely feels it will lead to nothing short of a demand from Microsoft that Intel license the technology from AMD.

01-31-2003, 09:02 AM	#23
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	I thought about that, and how it would get AMD a place closer to the hand of the Don once is gets the nod from Bill. I just hope that Hector Ruiz didn't piss him off at LinuxWorld. We know how much MS has been trying to squash the potential of that for so long. Then again, Dell offers Linux installations on many of their products. Does that matter to MS' bottom line? They're still making money it seems.

02-01-2003, 02:49 PM	#24
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I've taken some pictures of the parts I have so far (basically all of the main system except the DVD-ROM drive, processor and motherboard). I went ahead and uploaded 'em to here: http://d.gaveup.org/images/p4box/ They're relatively large, but they'll be no problem for broadband users. A few choice shots: Hard drive cage - 476k - This shows the hard drives that are going in to the system. There are two 120GB Western Digital "Special Edition" drives (left) with the 8MB cache. The other two are Fujitsu 73GB 10,000 RPM Ultra 160 SCSI. Each pair of drives will be cooled by a Panaflo 80mm high-output (39 CFM) fan. I realize that having them so close together may be an issue, so I'm going to monitor temperatures, and if they get too warm, I'll mount the two IDE drives in the other cage and spread the SCSI out. All told, I'll have 386GB of disk space in this machine. Power Supply - 310k - This is an Enermax 431 watt PSU. It's got a lot of cool things about it, but one of them is that the fan in the back of the PSU can be controlled via a knob - so if the machine is running cool, I can turn down the fan to keep the noise down. The fan on the bottom of the PSU (visible) connects to a power source via a 3-pin standard fan header. I will be plugging it in to a PCMods.com Rheobus mounted in one of the 3.5" external slots, allowing me to control it in this manner. The PSU itself is a very dark blue, which I think looks cool. Front bezel (close) - 618k - This shows the 52x CD-RW drive, the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum drive and the floppy. I wanted to get the Audigy 2 Platinum retail (includes drive) for a few reasons. One is that I had to spend $3,300 on a computer. The other is that it has front FireWire, Toslink optical in & out and audio in that's easily available. I'll be using this machine and my PowerMac to do some pretty serious video editing and I can appreciate having all of the available ports. That's pretty much all I've taken pictures of now - the other in the directory are just different angles and what not. Once I get the motherboard and processor, I'll put it all together and take more. Enjoy.

02-13-2003, 09:50 AM	#25
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I ordered the motherboard, processor and DVD-ROM drive today. The P4G8x Deluxe is stupidly rare and therefore stupidly expensive. The price went up from $229 to $289. Hooray! To compensate, I cut back to a Pentium 4 2.66 GHz CPU. I decided to buy today because I really want to get money back from the insurance company (I have already spent over $3,100) and I figured it was better to spend $600 today and get the money back next week than wait a month and spend $500 (and be without the money in the mean time). Plus, I want to have a fucking computer. I still have to clean the hard drives from <b>tier</b>. Anyone got any name ideas for this box? I needa call it something.

02-13-2003, 11:10 AM	#27
dave Guest Posts: n/a	THIS IS MY PENTIUM. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE. My favorite quote from the movie, however, is this: "And why are you not allowed to have a jelly donut, Private Pyle?" "Because I'm heavy, sir!" "Because you're a disgusting fat body, Private Pyle!"

02-28-2003, 02:37 PM	#29
dave Guest Posts: n/a	First post from <b>sonne</b>. It's definitely pretty fast. I still have some modding to do to the case and a better organization of the wires, but the OS is installed and everything seems to be working fine. I'll know more after I get it home and hook it up to a real setup - I'm at work now. But so far, so good.

02-28-2003, 06:02 PM	#30
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Why "sun?"

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