Bully Sets Girl's Hair on Fire in School

[slang]

Originally posted by Lady Sidhe
..........and he wouldn't have seen daylight for months.

That doesnt really sound like a punishment. Not to me anyway.


If my parents would have doled out that type of punishment when I was growing up, I would have set someone's home on fire to get it.

[DanaC]

I think marichiko raises an excellent point. Where do children look to for their socialisation? Society...If society undervalues the disabled then it stands to reason some children will infer from that that disabled people are not worth the same degree of respect as their ablebodied peers.

I dont think you are whining marichiko I think you are drawing on your own personal experience to add weight to your arguments which are political in nature. We all draw on our own experience you draw on the battles you have fought as wolf draws on her Psychiatric experiences

[jaguar]

It should be a shitload easier for state schools everywhere to kick little shits like this kid out.

[Pi]

And then jaguar? Let them stay outside in the streets the whole day? When I was a little kid, I made a lot of bad things and the only thing which helped was when my parents explained me what I did wrong and then punished me (in a way or an other). But we already have a discussion about that.
I think the boy didn't get the best education he should have been given. Maybe you should send his parents to jail too!

[jaguar]

I don't know about the US but I know back in australia there were some schools designed for these kids, I do know in normal state schools they could and did severely interrupt the progress of entire classes, greatest good, greatest number. One little maladjusted fuckup should not be able given the opportunity to slow the learning of classes of students and make teachers already difficult jobs harder. In my experiece half the time the parents were equally large liabilities and already well aquainted with the prison system.

[wolf]

We do put all of our maladjusted fuckups in one basket.

They are called "Alternative Schools".

It's usually the step before juvenile detention and/or boot camp.

Think of Lord of the Flies, and then set it in a school building.

[jaguar]

Least it lets everyone else get on with learning.

[jinx]

My kid goes to an alternative school (many students just returned from the NCACS conference at The Farm, in Tennessee), I haven't noticed any tribal war paint or pig heads on sticks or anything...

A few of the kids who are graduating this year;
Dillon C is going to Simon's Rock in Great Barrington MA, to start college in what would be his junior year of high school. He received grants and a large merit based scholarship to the school, which is affiliated with Baird.
Rebekah B was accepted at Bryn Mawr as a sophmore.
Hope T was accepted at Stanford, Brown, Williams, Vassar, Wellesley, Smith, and Scripps Colleges. Smith offered her a Stride fellowship where she will become a faculty research fellow begining in her freshman year. Hope will receive a scholarship as well as a stipend.
etc.

[jaguar]

Somehow I don't think thats the alt school wolf met. That is however, incredibly impressive.

Smith offered her a Stride fellowship where she will become a faculty research fellow begining in her freshman year. Hope will receive a scholarship as well as a stipend.

Don't you usually become a research fellow after you finish your postgrad phd, which kind of implies finishing your undergrad studies. I assume this is some kind of school for the exceptionally gifted.

[jinx]

No, it's an alternative community school. The place that I remember them sending the fuck ups from our local public school. There are a lot of fuck ups there, but they don't seem to be bothering anyone.

[wolf]

That is an entirely different kind of alternative school that jinx is talking about. Might be more properly referred to as a magnet or charter school?

The only post high-school institutions of learning most alternative school kids attend are ones with the words "correctional facility" in their names.


Of course, Elverson is culturally very different from Norristown.

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by lookout123


guns don't kill people, I kill people.

Actually, bullets traveling at a high rate of speed kill people....

Sidhe

[jinx]

Originally posted by wolf



Of course, Elverson is culturally very different from Norristown.

Well that couldn't be more true. They bus kids in from Philadelphia though... (and Coatesville )

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by mizchulita
Marichiko, you are sooo right on with your post. Where do we think children get their attitudes from, anyway? Sadly, I have too often seen school administrators take the side of the bully--I think they sometimes view it as the path of least resistance. Of course, it would be nice if schools didn't have to deal with this crap in the first place.

Maybe if there was a "zero-tolerance" for bullying, it would stop. Start kicking the little heathens out of school, and I'll bet THAT would give the parents a kick in the ass to take their kids to the woodshed and teach them some manners....

I remember when I was in eighth grade...I went to a really rough school, though I didn't really realize it at the time. These kids would stand right up and sass teachers. As you can imagine, the teachers were pretty hard-ass. They'd throw something at a kid at the first sign of aggression. And the girls...they had mouths that would make a sailor blush crimson and run for the soap. These kids all needed to be in reformatories or something. I look back and am just amazed.

I remember once, our math teacher, Mr. Lovely, a BIIIG dude, told one boy who thought he was a bad-ass to go to the principal's office. The kid refused, so Mr. Lovely proceeded to put him in his place in front of all the friends this kid was trying to impress. The little "badass" ended up bawling like a baby, demanding to go to the principal's office, but Mr. Lovely blocked the door and told him to sit his ass back down. The kid never caused another problem again, and was always respectful to Mr. Lovely after that.

Sometimes that's all it takes. These kids seem to forget that no matter how badass you are, there's always someone who's MORE badass.


Sidhe.

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by slang



That doesnt really sound like a punishment. Not to me anyway.


If my parents would have doled out that type of punishment when I was growing up, I would have set someone's home on fire to get it.

Oh, I dunno....no friends, no phone, no computer...nothing but your four walls? That would have driven me batshit.