Wow! Gas for just $.05 per gallon!

Originally posted by Troubleshooter


AH! GODDAMN HIPPIES!!!

Ok, got that out of my system.

Now, we have some real problems here in America with confusing, contradictory and conciliatory environmental policy.

For instance, it's one of the reasons for California's energy crisis. They can't build any of the newer, much more efficient and clean power plants because of environmental restrictions. The new natural gas burning plants are far and above superior to the coal plants that they have now.

No, they just build them in Colorado. We have the 4-corners power plant which pollutes the air in every direction, and outside the teeny town of Nucla, Colorado, we have the ever popular Tri-state power plant, also a real polluter, as well as a major road hazard since the thing is supplied by a never-ending stream of coal trucks which drive over the trecherous mountain roads and hair pin curves at a gazillion miles an hour. Nothing like trying to negotiate Norwood "Hill" - a very steep pass with few guard rails on an icey winter day and see one of these coal trucks bearing down on you in your rear view. The energy these plants produce go straight to LA, as the direction of the power lines attest. The population out there (about 1 per square mile - and the Navajo don't count since most don't have electrified hogans) hardly requires the massive electrical output of these two monsters, and the utility lines from them head west to California, not east to Denver. I shed no tears for California, and the state is hardly hamstrung by enviromental restrictions. They've just put their power plants in areas where the population is too small and too disenfranchised to protest.

Yes, I am a bona fide, "tree-hugging" hippie, and the reason I am is because I spent 6 years studying biology at the graduate and post graduate level. Most people who complain about environmental restrictions are so ignorant of science that they wouldn't know the 1st law of thermodynamics if it hit them with a stick.

[Catwoman]

Originally posted by jaguar
Try working for the other side, by nothing day is still a few months off, good marketing for it (how's that for irony) is always in demand.

Jag, am I being dumb or did that not make any sense at all??!

TS, don't shoot yet, I agree if there is a cleaner, less hazardous plant structure it should replace an older, more pollutive version. But at what environmental cost to knock it down and replace it? Does this equal the cost of continuing with the old one?

And the reason for California's energy crisis is not befuddled environmental claptrappers but as Pi quite rightly said overconsumption of energy in the USA as a whole. Did you know you use and waste the most electrical energy per capita than any other country?

[jaguar]

That didn't make any sense.

Let me rephrase.

Buy Nothing Day is a campaign run by Adbusters, you should look into it.

[Beestie]

Originally posted by hot_pastrami
... we're paying $2+ per gallon here

Still cheaper than sugar water (Coke).

Not that I'm happy about $2.00+ per gallon ($2.25/gal here) but just thought I'd add some perspective. Your point is valid.

[Catwoman]

Originally posted by jaguar
That didn't make any sense.

Let me rephrase.

Buy Nothing Day is a campaign run by Adbusters, you should look into it.

Will do.
http://www.buynothingday.co.uk/bndfaq.html