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Old 06-21-2004, 08:41 AM   #16
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"That's called taking hostages. We don't do that."
Am I the only one that finds that statement almost hilarious? Seriously. Lock up people for years without access to the legal system and then released most when you realize they're mostly harmless? Sure.

Detain a member of a family that has produced the worlds most wanted terrorist after he launches the biggest every terrorist attack on US soil? That's hostage taking.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:56 AM   #17
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Your right, Jag. We should round up every living relative of Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Ted Bundy. Yeah, string 'em up and don't forget the pitchforks and torches.
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:12 AM   #18
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Wouldn't you at least question them and check them out instead of giving them an express ticket out of extraditeable areas?

I'm sure all the people connected with the 3 you listed were well and truely checked out.
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:16 AM   #19
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The other bin Ladens were probably already on America's Most Watched list, under continuous surveillance. With all the things the US government has done wrong, you and Moore choose to criticize for something they did RIGHT?
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:21 AM   #20
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Wouldn't you at least question them and check them out instead of giving them an express ticket out of extraditeable areas?

I'm sure all the people connected with the 3 you listed were well and truely checked out.
Given that we have known that Osama was not our buddy for going on ten years prior to 9/11 don't you think that maybe we already checked them out? Since they were already in the US, they were probably ALL under at least basic surveillance.

The McVeighs and the McNichols were not known to us for what they were until AFTER the Oklahoma disaster. Big difference.
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:22 AM   #21
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to further stoke the fire

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123247,00.html

Free news story that will provoke claims of spin doctoring and other hysterics from the Left.

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Old 06-21-2004, 09:37 AM   #22
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oh, fox news! I love comedy too.

Since some people are stupid enough to think they report say, news for example maybe you should try reading the PDF of the document they claim supports those links. The document clearly states that the intel is based on the claims of defectors - the same people who the CIA based their evidence that Iraq has stacks of WMD on. They have been shown to have lied and vastly exagerated as well as be dangerously out of date t push their own agendas. Secondly, the reports there of Al-Queda members having been in bagdhad is based on intel that has since been discarded due to unreliability. Thats what happens when you try and base a bit of hysteria on a 2 year own document. But hey, you read fox news, it's not like critical thinking is encouraged.
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:43 AM   #23
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But hey, you read fox news, it's not like critical thinking is encouraged.
As opposed to Michael Moore's "documentaries."
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:58 AM   #24
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I don't watch them either.
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Old 06-21-2004, 11:16 AM   #25
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Michael Moore is to liberals what Ann Coulter is to conservatives.
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Old 06-21-2004, 11:22 AM   #26
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Michael Moore is to liberals what Ann Coulter is to conservatives.
Only I have no desire to do Michael Moore.
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Old 06-21-2004, 11:34 AM   #27
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The really damning bit from the Fox News link, which wasn't really Fox News per se but Bill O'Reilly, was the Putin bit. Just in case you don't trust that bit of news coing from Fox, here it is presented by CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ussia.warning/

How about the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3819057.stm

The AP where it originated:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...iraq&e=4&ncid=
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Old 06-21-2004, 11:39 AM   #28
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Only I have no desire to do Michael Moore.
You might enjoy this piece written by UT.
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The really damning bit ... was the Putin bit.
Bullshit. Everyone knows that CNN and the BBC are little more than W's handpuppets.

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Old 06-21-2004, 11:41 AM   #30
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You've obviously been spending too much time at the office, lately.
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