PETA Recap/Summary - Page 2

Elspode · 08-09-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

Patrick,

I was disappointed by your post. Given the posts above, I wouldn't exactly say "most everyone else" is 100% OK with meat consumption. If you have doubts as to my "claim" of employment, I'd be happy to send you my name, work phone number and email address at work in a private message. Thanks.

While I can understand your disappointment, it was actually a joke, and I stand by my statement that 'most' people here are meat eaters.

As to your employment with PETA, well, it was just a claim on your part, but I did not have (nor am I now interested in) proof of that claim, and so I stand by my statement that the term 'claim' was technically accurate.

As to the "100%" figure, I believe that I did not use it, and again refer to my characterization of "most everyone else".

I will now return us to our regularly scheduled meat eating vs. non-meat eating debate, starting with a new thread which will contain a poll vis a vis the consumption of meat vs. the non-consumption of meat so that we will have a more accurate demographic upon which to base future gross generalizations.

BrianR · 08-09-2004, 03:59 PM

And here I posted the perfect answer to this eternal debate. This idea will also, applied properly, end war the world over and have the Israelis and Palestinians living together without resorting to violence all the time. Even the gangs in LA will turn over a new leaf. I swear, I had a divine inspiration Thursday night! It was a bit complicated though so I posted it as soon as I woke up. Unfortunately, I now forget some key elements. You know how it is with dreams. Sorry. Now we all have to continue on the way we are.

Brian

slang · 08-09-2004, 04:09 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Brian. I'll just go back to sharpening my knives now.

wolf · 08-10-2004, 11:14 AM

I bet she puts on dark glasses and a hat and goes to Wendy's too.

garnet · 08-10-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

I bet she puts on dark glasses and a hat and goes to Wendy's too.

I have left the PETA threads alone since the crash, as it was apparent my comments were not welcome. Why are you guys still trying to pick fights with me about this?

DanaC · 08-10-2004, 12:08 PM

Dont take it to heart Garnet. This is one of those subjects that tends to lead to heated conversations. The Palestinian issue is another which tends to end up heated likewise the subject of capital punishment. I dont know why this subject gets people all het up. perhaps because animals play such an important role in many people's lives, either in terms of their food ( and therefore their overall lifestyle) or their pets which they may feel protective of their right to own.
I found your arguments interesting. I dont necessarily agree with everything you say but it made for an interesting read anyway *smiles*

Brigliadore · 08-16-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

I have left the PETA threads alone since the crash, as it was apparent my comments were not welcome. Why are you guys still trying to pick fights with me about this?

I purposely didn't post to the PETA threads as well. Didn't notice this thread till today. Holy shit I missed a lot. So I wasn't going to push this since the threads had been lost but since the topic is once again open I am going to ask.

Garnet, you said you would post proof that PETA doesn't do all the bad things the sites claim and you said you would send proof of all the other good stuff they do. I am still interested in it if you would kindly post it.

Also you said you would PM me the names and phone numbers of some well known animal experts who I could contact to prove or disprove my opinion on Leopards killing for sport. Never got that PM from you so please send it to me.

garnet · 08-16-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brigliadore

Garnet, you said you would post proof that PETA doesn't do all the bad things the sites claim and you said you would send proof of all the other good stuff they do. I am still interested in it if you would kindly post it. .

To be perfectly honest, I am really sick of this subject and I'm sure everyone else is, too. It was pretty clear to me that NO ONE agreed with what I had to say. Why should we continue to re-hash it? It would be arguing for the sake of arguing, and I personally think that's pretty silly. I could post 500 links to good things that PETA has done, but it's not going to "convince" anyone who already hates them that they are OK.

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Originally Posted by Brigliadore

Also you said you would PM me the names and phone numbers of some well known animal experts who I could contact to prove or disprove my opinion on Leopards killing for sport. Never got that PM from you so please send it to me.

I'm not going to PM you anything. I don't know who you are, and I am not giving you private phone numbers of my friends and colleagues. If that makes me a liar, then go forth and spew some more venom. I don't give a shit. In case you haven't noticed, I've got pretty thick skin.

Brigliadore · 08-16-2004, 11:18 PM

Wait a second. I politely ask you to please prove me wrong and suddenly your pulling an attitude with me. What the hell is that all about? Your certainly not going to change my mind about PETA if you don't give me any reason to change it. In the PETA thread I said in all seriousness that I was willing to look at any proof you had, that the things the websites claimed were false. I am willing to change my opinion of the organization but not because one person tells me to. I have seen first hand the bad side of PETA, so I asked you nicely to show me the good side. I haven't "spewed" any venom at you, I haven't called you any names, so I don't think I deserve the response you just gave me.

If you don't want to give me the names of some people who are experts on Leopards thats fine by me. Its no skin off my nose, I'll just continue to assume the nature programs are correct and go about my life.

Clodfobble · 08-10-2004, 12:06 PM

Garnet, it has become apparent that you aren't noticing the difference between a fighting post and a joking post. I would estimate that at least 50% of the posts on the Cellar are meant to be humorous in one way or another. Not all of them will have smiley faces next to them, since dry wit and deadpan humor is a specialty around here. Seriously, just learn to laugh at yourself (and everyone else) and it'll be fine.

garnet · 08-10-2004, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Garnet, it has become apparent that you aren't noticing the difference between a fighting post and a joking post. I would estimate that at least 50% of the posts on the Cellar are meant to be humorous in one way or another. Not all of them will have smiley faces next to them, since dry wit and deadpan humor is a specialty around here. Seriously, just learn to laugh at yourself (and everyone else) and it'll be fine.

Sorry, but when it's the same people saying the same things over and over it's not funny anymore. And 99 44/100's post above wasn't exactly light-hearted. I've tried to make upbeat posts on other threads, and someone always pipes in with a vicious remark about vegetarians or a picture of a dead animal. Thanks for trying, I really appreciate it. But I just don't find that to be very funny.

wolf · 08-10-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

Sorry, but when it's the same people saying the same things over and over it's not funny anymore. And 99 44/100's post above wasn't exactly light-hearted. I've tried to make upbeat posts on other threads, and someone always pipes in with a vicious remark about vegetarians or a picture of a dead animal. Thanks for trying, I really appreciate it. But I just don't find that to be very funny.

Have you considered that your relentless pushing of vegetarian/PETAn propaganda to an admittedly high percentage of dedicated meat eaters might have something to do with that?

The dead animal pictures were here before you got here. They will be here long after you leave.

Do not make the mistake of inflating your own importance to the board. We know from experience that there are people who at one point seemed to define the character of The Cellar. We very quickly found out that the place survives with or without them. It's not all about you.

If you think we are saying the same things over and over, perhaps you need to start reading and posting to threads on different topics. Oh, and don't hijack existing threads to suit your agenda, either. You'll just continue to frustrate yourself.

garnet · 08-10-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Have you considered that your relentless pushing of vegetarian/PETAn propaganda to an admittedly high percentage of dedicated meat eaters might have something to do with that?

Please go back and read my post. I fully admit that I did not get off to a good start with this board, and that is my doing. Like I said in my last post, I have completely avoided anything PETA related since the crash. I even declined voting in Patrick's poll. Perhaps you should check my recent posts before opening your big mouth. Why don't you pick another victim?

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Originally Posted by wolf

If you think we are saying the same things over and over, perhaps you need to start reading and posting to threads on different topics.[/quote Oh, and don't hijack existing threads to suit your agenda, either. You'll just continue to frustrate yourself.

Uhhh, you might want to go back and read this thread from the beginning. It was hijacked by YOU and 99 44/100. The only thing I ever mentioned in this thread was my dog--YOU GUYS are the ones that brought my previous posts about PETA into it. Go back and read it, and then you can apologize to me.

slang · 08-10-2004, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

.......... Perhaps you should check my recent posts before opening your big mouth. .......

[thinks to self] Hoooo-leeeee-shit batman.....we're gonna see Wolf activate the intellectual baseball bat here [/thinks to self]

(Unfolds a chair next to Troubleshooter and sits down)

99 44/100% pure · 08-10-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

Uhhh, you might want to go back and read this thread from the beginning. It was hijacked by YOU and 99 44/100. The only thing I ever mentioned in this thread was my dog--YOU GUYS are the ones that brought PETA into it. Go back and read it, and then you can apologize to me.

Hijack? HIJACK?! How can one hijack a thread called "PETA Recap/Summary" with a comment about PETA? (Of course, comments about grammar and word usage are never attempted hijacks.) FWIW, I missed the earlier shitfest* prior to the crash, and I don't have any preconceived notions about you or your posts. Regarding the whole "Animal Rights" debate, I found Brigliadore's comment on another thread to be concise, well written and thought-provoking. Please don't take it all so personally, or you'll spoil the fun.

*I'll give 10:1 odds that the person who called you a 'fucking asshole' was Sycamore. He does that. Get over it.

08-10-2004, 11:14 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I bet she puts on dark glasses and a hat and goes to Wendy's too. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-16-2004, 11:18 PM	#9
Brigliadore stays crispy in milk Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: A strange planet called Utah Posts: 270	Wait a second. I politely ask you to please prove me wrong and suddenly your pulling an attitude with me. What the hell is that all about? Your certainly not going to change my mind about PETA if you don't give me any reason to change it. In the PETA thread I said in all seriousness that I was willing to look at any proof you had, that the things the websites claimed were false. I am willing to change my opinion of the organization but not because one person tells me to. I have seen first hand the bad side of PETA, so I asked you nicely to show me the good side. I haven't "spewed" any venom at you, I haven't called you any names, so I don't think I deserve the response you just gave me. If you don't want to give me the names of some people who are experts on Leopards thats fine by me. Its no skin off my nose, I'll just continue to assume the nature programs are correct and go about my life. __________________ I cant think of anything to put here so this is all I am going to write.

08-09-2004, 03:59 PM	#2
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	And here I posted the perfect answer to this eternal debate. This idea will also, applied properly, end war the world over and have the Israelis and Palestinians living together without resorting to violence all the time. Even the gangs in LA will turn over a new leaf. I swear, I had a divine inspiration Thursday night! It was a bit complicated though so I posted it as soon as I woke up. Unfortunately, I now forget some key elements. You know how it is with dreams. Sorry. Now we all have to continue on the way we are. Brian

08-09-2004, 04:09 PM	#3
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Thanks for clearing that up Brian. I'll just go back to sharpening my knives now.

08-10-2004, 12:08 PM	#6
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Dont take it to heart Garnet. This is one of those subjects that tends to lead to heated conversations. The Palestinian issue is another which tends to end up heated likewise the subject of capital punishment. I dont know why this subject gets people all het up. perhaps because animals play such an important role in many people's lives, either in terms of their food ( and therefore their overall lifestyle) or their pets which they may feel protective of their right to own. I found your arguments interesting. I dont necessarily agree with everything you say but it made for an interesting read anyway smiles

08-10-2004, 12:06 PM	#10
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Garnet, it has become apparent that you aren't noticing the difference between a fighting post and a joking post. I would estimate that at least 50% of the posts on the Cellar are meant to be humorous in one way or another. Not all of them will have smiley faces next to them, since dry wit and deadpan humor is a specialty around here. Seriously, just learn to laugh at yourself (and everyone else) and it'll be fine.

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