The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

View Poll Results: Would you leave your party for a new one?
Yes, sign me up today! 5 17.86%
No, I'm proud to be a democrat 4 14.29%
No, I'm proud to be a republican 0 0%
No, I'm with Radar and will die a Libertarian 3 10.71%
No, I live green 0 0%
No, I will always remain an independent 9 32.14%
No, I don't think my Kommissar would approve 0 0%
Party? I'm with whoever has the most beer. 7 25.00%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-18-2004, 06:21 AM   #16
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitsune
Oh, oh, oh, I'm confused about selection #7 -- what happens if my Kommissar isn't in town?

You're in his eye
And you'll know why
The more you live
The faster you will die
Nice.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2004, 06:26 AM   #17
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
I'll second a corporation is not a person and add the end of the Imperial Presidency.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis

Last edited by Griff; 08-18-2004 at 07:22 AM. Reason: bad smeller
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2004, 08:52 AM   #18
Kitsune
still eats dirt
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,031
Now I have to ask: what is a Kommissar?
Kitsune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2004, 09:01 AM   #19
wolf
lobber of scimitars
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
The Communist official whose job it is to make sure that you are correctly politically indoctrinated and not in need of reeducation or perhaps even relocation to a special camp or school where you will learn to express proper appreciation of the Worker's Paradise in which you live.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og

"Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island

High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis
wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2004, 09:03 AM   #20
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
Quote:
Now I have to ask: what is a Kommissar?
Der Kommisar is an 80's song originally by Falco but later made more popular by a group called "After the Fire".
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 06:32 PM   #21
depmats
Major Inhabitant
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 124
Momma always said parties are from the debil.
depmats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 06:43 PM   #22
BrianR
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,338
I think that a good idea would also be that in addition to your planks, to eliminate the congressional pension. I can see your party in about fifty years going bankrupt due to all those pensions draining tax dollars. One term should not entitle you to a salary for life.
__________________
Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous
BrianR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 01:34 AM   #23
marichiko
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
No more TV or radio advertizing in National Elections. You want to know what a candidate stands for - you have to read about it in a paper or news magazine. This would serve two purposes, knock down the "billionaire factor" a couple of notches, and ensure that voters would be forced to make a somewhat more reasoned choice then that given by sound bites and media hype.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 07:13 AM   #24
Cyber Wolf
As stable as a ring of PU-239
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites
Posts: 1,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by marichiko
ensure that voters would be forced to make a somewhat more reasoned choice then that given by sound bites and media hype.
But sound bites are so delicious...especially with powdered sugar and just a bit of honey.....oh. right.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
I don't vote-- there are no Wiccan candidates.
Unfortunately, there's very little chance of this happening. Even if a Wiccan starts to make it through the candidate ranks, someone eventually is going to pull the God card in a smear campaign and at this point that's a very strong hand to beat.

I personally would like to see and would likely vote for a candidate with the following background: went to a public school from K-12, worked summers in fast food or retail or some other minimum wage job during high school, went to college on loans/worked way through college (parents paid for little to none), worked for a period of time with a temp agency that did not provide standard benefits (health, dental, vision, etc), gets into politics at the 'average person' level (not by family ties or wealth status expectations). THIS kind of person, I feel, would have a better idea of what the average American is going through. He (or she really) will know first hand how it is to not have regular healthcare because you can't afford it, not just hear about it. They'd know first hand how our public schools are. I don't care about the schools a candidate went to or the colleges he attended or other such frills. Really don't care about a war record either. Having been in the military and/or been a veteran doesn't make a candidate any more American, any more a leader or any more patriotic than someone who hasn't. I want a candidate who has BEEN there and doesn't just sympathize (publicly) from atop his pile of cash. I would identify better with a person like this. But...the way things work around here, that person will likely never get much higher than local or state level official. Their opinions and views on things might be too 'radical' or 'uncustomary' for the other rich people at the top.
__________________
"I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

"I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens
Cyber Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 10:23 AM   #25
lookout123
changed his status to single
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Right behind you. No, the other side.
Posts: 10,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
I personally would like to see and would likely vote for a candidate with the following background: went to a public school from K-12, worked summers in fast food or retail or some other minimum wage job during high school, went to college on loans/worked way through college (parents paid for little to none), worked for a period of time with a temp agency that did not provide standard benefits (health, dental, vision, etc), gets into politics at the 'average person' level (not by family ties or wealth status expectations)
so i can count on your vote then?
__________________
Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin
lookout123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 11:16 AM   #26
wolf
lobber of scimitars
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf


Unfortunately, there's very little chance of this happening. Even if a Wiccan starts to make it through the candidate ranks, someone eventually is going to pull the God card in a smear campaign and at this point that's a very strong hand to beat.
One of my friends from high school is pagan. Or I should say "was."

We re-met about 18-20 years after graduation because she was a poll worker (for the Dems) at my local polling place. She recognized me, and we spent a lot of time catching up before I went in to vote. Through some very unusual coincidences, she had also ended up being my best friend's divorce lawyer, largely because she was a pagan attorney.

So ... this past primary, I see her again (the polls are where we keep in touch) and instead of her usual gauzy skirt and hand-knit sweater from organically raised, gently harvested wool, she was wearing a sensible business suit ... as we started our hugs and greetings, she whispered in my ear "You gotta know this ... I'm a Republican now and don't let anybody know that I was pagan. I'm Catholic again."

She went on to explain that she has political aspirations, and such information would not serve her well.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og

"Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island

High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis
wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 11:20 AM   #27
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by marichiko
No more TV or radio advertizing in National Elections. You want to know what a candidate stands for - you have to read about it in a paper or news magazine. This would serve two purposes, knock down the "billionaire factor" a couple of notches, and ensure that voters would be forced to make a somewhat more reasoned choice then that given by sound bites and media hype.
Not that it bothers McCain Feingold and company, but eliminating freedom of speech is the last thing I want to endorse.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 11:23 AM   #28
Trilby
Slattern of the Swail
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 15,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by lookout123
so i can count on your vote then?
You've got mine, lookout. And not just because I'm a totally ignorant voter, either!
Trilby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 11:40 AM   #29
lookout123
changed his status to single
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Right behind you. No, the other side.
Posts: 10,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
You've got mine, lookout. And not just because I'm a totally ignorant voter, either!
thanks... that's 2 votes for me. if only i can get my wife to change her mind, then i'll have 3.
__________________
Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin
lookout123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 04:54 PM   #30
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Quote:
worked for a period of time with a temp agency that did not provide standard benefits (health, dental, vision, etc)
Quote:
He (or she really) will know first hand how it is to not have regular healthcare because you can't afford it, not just hear about it.
Trouble is, a person just out of college and single is probably pretty healthy and might not care about health Ins, at that point in their lives.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:04 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.