More Washington Metro Stupidity - Page 2

Radar · 10-22-2004, 02:39 PM

Eating a pizza doesn't harm anyone else or endanger them, shitting it out does.

And yes, I'd make sure we left the train without leaving a mess. That's the whole point.

russotto · 10-22-2004, 02:49 PM

The "candy bar" case was one where they told the woman not to eat it, so she FINISHED it -- stuffed the rest in her mouth and threw the wrapper away. Arrest was for that universal crime, contempt of cop.

IIRC, the 12 year old was eating french fries.

I don't know about the handicapped guy.

I had an altercation with the Metro cops once, but it was because I had a (valid) ticket that wouldn't read. The person in the booth said it was no good and I'd have buy a new one and mail away for a refund. I had my beer muscles on so I refused, they held the train and called the cops. The cops tossed me out and gave me my card back, with the booth person screaming at them not to give me the card. I put the card back in and it worked that time... I'd like to think the cops then beat up the booth person for wasting their time, but they probably didn't.

elSicomoro · 10-22-2004, 10:32 PM

If just a smidge of WMATA rubbed off on SEPTA, it would be a massive improvement for SEPTA.

alphageek31337 · 10-23-2004, 02:18 AM

As a thought, has anyone seen the commercial for J. Random CrappyMaltBeverage where they take over a subway train and throw a rave? Just because it's somewhat on topic and it seems like it'd be a fun thing to do just to screw with people a bit on their way home from work. Perhaps it'd have to be in Britain, as I've come to understand that it's perfectly legal to indulge in alcohol on public transit, and I know that you can get around distribution laws by giving out tickets and calling it a raffle with 1:1 odds. Anyone care to raise hell on the tubes with me?

Roosta · 10-23-2004, 05:50 AM

Do you guys get the "flash mob" thing over there? If you're scratching your head wondering, it's where a couple of hundred people pre-organise a meeting place on the net, then all turn up at the same time. They then do something really stupid for a couple of minutes then disappear as quick as they arrived. Last month in London, it was a huge pillow fight. You could do the same on the trains with cheeseburgers or other easily hidden food.

10-23-2004, 12:54 PM

Actually, there's this thing where people can apparently do that with cell phones. You have a group of 50, or 100 or 200 or whatever like-minded indivduals and you see something going on in the street and you message them all to come join you where the action is. I believe there were instances of this at RNC.

wolf · 10-23-2004, 02:07 PM

There was a vague attempt at flashmobbing in the Philadelphia area, but as well all know, Philadelphians are too apathetic to organize (or dis-organize, which is often the point of a flash mob).

slang · 10-23-2004, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar

I swear to god when I go to D.C. I will ride the trian and I will eat and curse, and if a cop even tries to touch me I will shove his stick straight up his ass.

This is the funniest thing I have seen all day.

Radar, I truly appreciate your rebellious spirit. Like it or not, we share that. The reality though, is that neither of us are badasses up against the system.
Not until the Next American Revolution anyway.

Cops have a working process that, right or wrong, gets progressively more hostile with non-compliance to their "authority" and the law. You know that.

Throw in racial differences, the situation gets worse.

I'd like to get this whole event on hidden cam from a slight distance. Sure, you'd intimidate them...well, because, you're Radar...and that would also look great as a clip.

On the other hand, when they drive your head up your own ass after non-compliance, that would be an interesting clip too.

I'm sure that the mere mention of this will produce numerous factual instances that you have used force on law enforcement and walked away unharmed and a hero.

In any case, I wish you luck and share your attitude in this circumstance.

russotto · 10-25-2004, 10:09 AM

Unfortunately, there's another side to it. While the Metro cops would certainly be able to handle Radar, they might not want to. While they have no problem arresting 12 year olds, parapalegics, and small women for infractions of the rules, they might just look the other way at a food-eating hard-cursing person who looks like they might actually put up a decent fight.

Cyber Wolf · 10-25-2004, 11:53 AM

Of course, that could backfire. They've already taken some public heat for going after and taking down people like children, handicapped folks and pregnant women. Considering the press, I don't see why they wouldn't zealously taken down someone like Radar just to show they're not afraid of the able-bodied. Such a sucker might even get even more roughed up just so they can prove a point.

On my list of things to look for in the news: The pregnant lady has her baby and there's a problem with it or its stillborn and she accuses the Metro Police for injuring/killing her then unborn child.

wolf · 10-27-2004, 08:28 PM

I think Chicago PD tasered a pregnant woman recently. At her wedding.

Metro PD are going to have to work harder to top that.

10-27-2004, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

I think Chicago PD tasered a pregnant woman recently. At her wedding.

Metro PD are going to have to work harder to top that.

That's a pretty spooky story. I don't see how the cops can come up with a legitimate reason for tasering a frightened woman who was hiding in a closet after she saw what happened to her Dad. That is sooooo wrong!

wolf · 10-27-2004, 08:51 PM

What the press reports is rarely what actually happened.

richlevy · 10-27-2004, 09:50 PM

Quote:

In court documents, Madison states she saw what happened to her father, screamed, and asked the officer to stop. The officer allegedly turned the Taser gun toward her and threatened the bride with it, according to the lawsuit.

Madison ran into the home, and one of the officers followed. That officer then allegedly shot Madison with the Taser gun twice in the abdomen, despite being told by witnesses that she was pregnant.

A prong from the stun gun reportedly became lodged in Madison's stomach and had to be removed by paramedics, Ferguson said.

(snip)

Police admit using the Taser gun on Madison's abdomen. According to their statement, an officer found Madison hiding in a closet inside the home. When she refused to come out, police said two officers used the stun gun on the woman.

Phelps was charged with resisting arrest, battery to a police officer and keeping a disorderly house, while Madison was charged with battery to a police officer and resisting arrest, according to police and attorneys.

Screaming at police, running away, and hiding in a closet is battery? What the heck kind of crime is keeping a disordely house? Who gets to judge that, Martha Stewart?

Maybe cops should be wired with cameras like cop cars to help avoid the conflicting accounts.

russotto · 10-28-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy

Maybe cops should be wired with cameras like cop cars to help avoid the conflicting accounts.

Whenever the video evidence conflicts with the cop's story, the tape mysteriously turns up blank.

These cops are in deep shit, though. Not because they tasered a pregnant woman; cop immunity covers that easy enough. Because they picked on a guy who is a part-time state police officer.

10-22-2004, 02:39 PM	#16
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Eating a pizza doesn't harm anyone else or endanger them, shitting it out does. And yes, I'd make sure we left the train without leaving a mess. That's the whole point. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin Last edited by Radar; 10-22-2004 at 02:41 PM.

10-23-2004, 02:18 AM	#19
alphageek31337 Enemy Combatant/Evildoer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 263	As a thought, has anyone seen the commercial for J. Random CrappyMaltBeverage where they take over a subway train and throw a rave? Just because it's somewhat on topic and it seems like it'd be a fun thing to do just to screw with people a bit on their way home from work. Perhaps it'd have to be in Britain, as I've come to understand that it's perfectly legal to indulge in alcohol on public transit, and I know that you can get around distribution laws by giving out tickets and calling it a raffle with 1:1 odds. Anyone care to raise hell on the tubes with me? __________________ The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. ---Friedrich Nietzsche

10-23-2004, 05:50 AM	#20
Roosta Nutter. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England Posts: 221	Do you guys get the "flash mob" thing over there? If you're scratching your head wondering, it's where a couple of hundred people pre-organise a meeting place on the net, then all turn up at the same time. They then do something really stupid for a couple of minutes then disappear as quick as they arrived. Last month in London, it was a huge pillow fight. You could do the same on the trains with cheeseburgers or other easily hidden food. __________________ Back from the brink...

10-23-2004, 02:07 PM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	There was a vague attempt at flashmobbing in the Philadelphia area, but as well all know, Philadelphians are too apathetic to organize (or dis-organize, which is often the point of a flash mob). __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-25-2004, 11:53 AM	#25
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Of course, that could backfire. They've already taken some public heat for going after and taking down people like children, handicapped folks and pregnant women. Considering the press, I don't see why they wouldn't zealously taken down someone like Radar just to show they're not afraid of the able-bodied. Such a sucker might even get even more roughed up just so they can prove a point. On my list of things to look for in the news: The pregnant lady has her baby and there's a problem with it or its stillborn and she accuses the Metro Police for injuring/killing her then unborn child. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens Last edited by Cyber Wolf; 10-25-2004 at 11:55 AM.

10-22-2004, 02:49 PM	#17
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The "candy bar" case was one where they told the woman not to eat it, so she FINISHED it -- stuffed the rest in her mouth and threw the wrapper away. Arrest was for that universal crime, contempt of cop. IIRC, the 12 year old was eating french fries. I don't know about the handicapped guy. I had an altercation with the Metro cops once, but it was because I had a (valid) ticket that wouldn't read. The person in the booth said it was no good and I'd have buy a new one and mail away for a refund. I had my beer muscles on so I refused, they held the train and called the cops. The cops tossed me out and gave me my card back, with the booth person screaming at them not to give me the card. I put the card back in and it worked that time... I'd like to think the cops then beat up the booth person for wasting their time, but they probably didn't.

10-22-2004, 10:32 PM	#18
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	If just a smidge of WMATA rubbed off on SEPTA, it would be a massive improvement for SEPTA.

10-23-2004, 12:54 PM	#21
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, there's this thing where people can apparently do that with cell phones. You have a group of 50, or 100 or 200 or whatever like-minded indivduals and you see something going on in the street and you message them all to come join you where the action is. I believe there were instances of this at RNC.

10-25-2004, 10:09 AM	#24
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Unfortunately, there's another side to it. While the Metro cops would certainly be able to handle Radar, they might not want to. While they have no problem arresting 12 year olds, parapalegics, and small women for infractions of the rules, they might just look the other way at a food-eating hard-cursing person who looks like they might actually put up a decent fight.

10-27-2004, 08:28 PM	#26
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think Chicago PD tasered a pregnant woman recently. At her wedding. Metro PD are going to have to work harder to top that. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-27-2004, 08:51 PM	#28
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	What the press reports is rarely what actually happened. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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