3/9/2005: Rowing on ice - Page 2

hampor · 03-10-2005, 01:51 AM

Any decent college crew already has a rowing tank that's kind of like the endless pool. There are some good pictures here: http://www.durhamboat.com/TANK.HTM

The problem is that rowing in the tank only gets you so far. It's like training for a marathon on the stairmaster. It's better than nothing, but it's not the real thing.

The hard part about rowing (besides the blisters on your palms, gasping for breath, and those times when both legs fall asleep and you have to stumble around on the dock in your socks through the goose turds) is balance.

The boats balance OK if all the rowers put the oars in the water. It's when they lift oars up that the boat can flop to the left or right. If the ports each raise their blades a little, and the starboards all lower a little, then the shell is going to lean over to the left. It's kind of like balancing on a tightrope with a balance pole, except that four people are hold the left pointing half of the pole, and four are holding the right half.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2005, 05:02 AM

Thanks Hampor, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that kind of thing existed.

Do those boats (shells, skulls) have any kind of keel? I know some canoes do and some don't.

hampor · 03-10-2005, 12:36 PM

I don't know about skulls, but for crew shells there is sometimes just a little bit of a keel at the tail, and then the rudder. For most of the length it's sort of a semicircle. Here's a picture of a cross (very cross) section. http://www.jrshells.com/pages/jrs_vespoli_repair.html

What I found intriguing is the risk that they took. The ice could have esily drifted closed and then they would have to walk home.

Elspode · 03-10-2005, 04:03 PM

I almost submitted this exact picture a few days back, but decided that it was probably too bland for most people. I, however, thought it was pretty damn cool.

BigV · 03-10-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

I almost submitted this exact picture a few days back, but decided that it was probably too bland for most people. I, however, thought it was pretty damn cool.

'scuse me, but just how does one submit a picture, please?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hampor

I don't know about skulls, but for crew shells there is sometimes just a little bit of a keel at the tail, and then the rudder. For most of the length it's sort of a semicircle. Here's a picture of a cross (very cross) section. http://www.jrshells.com/pages/jrs_vespoli_repair.html

What I found intriguing is the risk that they took. The ice could have esily drifted closed and then they would have to walk home.

It looks like the area below the deck is sealed off for a water tight chamber......or smuggling drugs and illegal aliens.

Trilby · 03-10-2005, 08:41 AM

Can we get more pics from Spain? There was a run of Spanish IotD--the running of the bulls, the great tomato-fight, the naked bicyclists...let's go back to Spain!!

...Or, Mexico!!

sandra77 · 03-10-2005, 10:09 AM

This picture was very intriguing for me but I am from the west where we don't do a lot of this kind of thing. I have enjoyed learning more about it from all of your posts.

Undertoad, I am sorry you are feeling burnt out. I love checking the image of the day. I have often seen the picture already but your narrative adds a special point of view.

Let me know where I can send potential IoTDs. If I have any comments I will add those. Maybe they will spark something for you.

Sandra

BigV · 03-10-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sandra77

This picture was very intriguing for me but I am from the west where we don't do a lot of this kind of thing. I have enjoyed learning more about it from all of your posts.
--snip--
Sandra

Hey, Seattle qualifies as "West" of a lot of other places, and we have this.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

Hey, Seattle qualifies as "West" of a lot of other places, and we have this.

That site has a cool poster from last years races.

Catwoman · 03-10-2005, 11:33 AM

if only they were skating. and it was thin ice.

jaguar · 03-10-2005, 12:11 PM

Guess it's true...

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Netcraft confirms it, IOTD is dying. One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered IOTD community when IDC confirmed that IOTD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all images. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that IOTD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. IOTD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by sympathetic claims of being burnt out in the recent peanut gallery comprehensive off-the-cuff opinion test.

Ok I'm all geeked out now.

Undertoad · 03-10-2005, 08:19 PM

Forward as attachment to undertoad@cellar.org

Don't be put off if I don't use it

Thanks in advance!

jaguar · 03-10-2005, 08:23 PM

you know you should put a frigging huge link saying that somewhere.

Undertoad · 03-10-2005, 08:54 PM

You're right... actually I should just get the submission thingie done and be done with it.

03-10-2005, 01:51 AM	#1
hampor Colloquialist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SiliValley Posts: 75	Tanks for the endless pool Any decent college crew already has a rowing tank that's kind of like the endless pool. There are some good pictures here: http://www.durhamboat.com/TANK.HTM The problem is that rowing in the tank only gets you so far. It's like training for a marathon on the stairmaster. It's better than nothing, but it's not the real thing. The hard part about rowing (besides the blisters on your palms, gasping for breath, and those times when both legs fall asleep and you have to stumble around on the dock in your socks through the goose turds) is balance. The boats balance OK if all the rowers put the oars in the water. It's when they lift oars up that the boat can flop to the left or right. If the ports each raise their blades a little, and the starboards all lower a little, then the shell is going to lean over to the left. It's kind of like balancing on a tightrope with a balance pole, except that four people are hold the left pointing half of the pole, and four are holding the right half.

03-10-2005, 05:02 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Thanks Hampor, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that kind of thing existed. Do those boats (shells, skulls) have any kind of keel? I know some canoes do and some don't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-10-2005, 12:36 PM	#3
hampor Colloquialist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SiliValley Posts: 75	even keel I don't know about skulls, but for crew shells there is sometimes just a little bit of a keel at the tail, and then the rudder. For most of the length it's sort of a semicircle. Here's a picture of a cross (very cross) section. http://www.jrshells.com/pages/jrs_vespoli_repair.html What I found intriguing is the risk that they took. The ice could have esily drifted closed and then they would have to walk home.

03-10-2005, 04:03 PM	#4
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I almost submitted this exact picture a few days back, but decided that it was probably too bland for most people. I, however, thought it was pretty damn cool. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

03-10-2005, 08:41 AM	#7
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Can we get more pics from Spain? There was a run of Spanish IotD--the running of the bulls, the great tomato-fight, the naked bicyclists...let's go back to Spain!! ...Or, Mexico!! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-10-2005, 10:09 AM	#8
sandra77 Antagonistic Antagonist Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22	This picture was very intriguing for me but I am from the west where we don't do a lot of this kind of thing. I have enjoyed learning more about it from all of your posts. Undertoad, I am sorry you are feeling burnt out. I love checking the image of the day. I have often seen the picture already but your narrative adds a special point of view. Let me know where I can send potential IoTDs. If I have any comments I will add those. Maybe they will spark something for you. Sandra

03-10-2005, 11:33 AM	#11
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	if only they were skating. and it was thin ice. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

03-10-2005, 08:19 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Forward as attachment to undertoad@cellar.org Don't be put off if I don't use it Thanks in advance!

03-10-2005, 08:23 PM	#14
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	you know you should put a frigging huge link saying that somewhere. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

03-10-2005, 08:54 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	You're right... actually I should just get the submission thingie done and be done with it.

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