DWI poll part deux - Page 2

wolf · 05-12-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwennie!

If I hurt someone, that would have been with me the rest of my life.

Why do drunks never consider themselves as "someone" in that statement?

Trilby · 05-12-2005, 10:46 AM

Ah...good question, grasshopper.

Plus, I'd rather kill myself than harm someone else. Much rather.

mrnoodle · 05-12-2005, 12:09 PM

killing yourself hurts others. suicide (or suicide by stupidity) is the singlemost selfish and hurtful thing in the world. the ones who do it obviously don't know how many people are actually rooting for them, and that's too bad.

plthijinx · 05-12-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwennie!

This year I've had to take three cab rides over $75 each. I felt it was worth it each time.

no doubt, here in houston, for example, the night i got out of jail there were cab's right there waiting. i asked them how much to take me out to the burbs and they wanted $60! of course if i'd been drinking that's one thing, $60 is WAYcheaper than bail and lawyers and fines if any but i said, thanks, but no thanks. i'm not paying $60 for a 15 mile cab ride just fresh out of jail so i called a friend. now, however, if i'm just going out for the night in the neighborhood i'll walk or catch a ride with someone. i keep it pretty close to the house now. at least within walking distance.

SmurfAbuser · 05-12-2005, 06:23 PM

I have an alcoholic friend who specfically chooses places to live based on whether or not they're within "staggering distance" to a bar. And he ends up moving a lot, but that's a whole other story. Crazy shit, but at least he doesn't drink and drive anymore.

As for the cab fare thing, I'll pay $50 or $100 for a cab ride in a heartbeat if I know I'm drunk and shouldn't drive. I'd rather be broke for the rest of the week than dead (or even worse, kill someone else). Haven't been down the DUI road, and with my luck, I'd get popped the first time I try.

Iggy · 05-13-2005, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwennie!

You are wise. Very few folks can learn from other people's mistakes. I went thru a sobriety period for about 8 months, then decided to try the moderation thing again. That's been working for the last year.

My rule is just like yours. If I have my car with me, I don't take the first drink. If I want to drink, I leave my car at home. I've learned how to navigate public transit and no longer think of taxis as expensive.

As I said last year, I crashed my car in a DUI accident. I paid fines, spent 20 days in jail, and went to DUI classes for a year. All that is over. If I hurt someone, that would have been with me the rest of my life.

Thanks. It is a wonderful thing that you learned your lesson. Everyone makes mistakes, but the important thing is to acknowledge that it was a mistake. That is the only way to improve. Now I just wish my family would realize that...

But anyway, Good luck with sobriety! I'm rooting for you!

Catwoman · 05-13-2005, 06:23 AM

I think you know the point where you really shouldn't be driving. I have rollercoastered home after a couple of wines but been in control. Other nights I've stubbornly got in the car after 16 vodkas and been dragged out by a friend. On those nights I am aware somewhere deep in my consciousness that it's not a good idea. I've never done it, friend or no friend. Know thyself, yah.

mrnoodle · 07-25-2005, 09:13 AM

DUI lesson part two: Lesson begun, 7/23/05. Court date, 9/8/05.

Blew a .08 at a checkpoint after playing poker and drinking 4 beers over the course of 3 hours. This one's gonna cost me, and I was just getting my shit together financially.

We'll see what happens....lawyer shopping today.

Please don't drive after drinking even ONE alcoholic beverage -- your whole life can get screwed up in 5 minutes, and you don't have to even be TRYING to get drunk.

None of the beverages I consume in the future will contain alcohol. Expensive refreshment, that.

Trilby · 07-25-2005, 10:05 AM

I can relate. I got my DUI last July, but I refused the breathalyzer. Lawyer got me off on a Failure to Maintain Proper Distance. Cost around 3,000 plus a suspended license for 6 months. My heart goes out to you, noodle. Remember: This, too, shall pass.

plthijinx · 07-25-2005, 10:05 AM

if you had 4 beers over 3 hours, either your metabolism is slow or the machine was out of whack. with any luck after several court date reschedules you might stand a chance. on mine, i got lucky because the officer missed the court date. he had shown up the day before and actually thought i was the DA because I was wearing a suit and looked the part i suppose. he didn't even recognize me. it was sooo funny. he came up to me after he had talked to my lawyer and when he asked where the DA was for the case my lawyer had misunderstood him and thought he was asking for me to which he pointed at me. hehe, the cop walked up i stood up as he approached me:
me extending hand: "hey, how've you been?"
cop: "oh good. good. say are you the DA?"
me: chuckling "no i'm the guy you arrested"
cop: taken aback "oh, uh, uh (thumbing through his little book) oh, you mister so and so?"
me: "yeah, so you been doing ok?"
cop: uhm yyyeah, do you know where the DA is?"
me: pointing "yeah she's right over there."

the look on his face was priceless. anyway the trial was bumped to the next day and he had to work the night shift so he was asleep when he was supposed to be in court. now the cop that gave me my video downtown did show up but in street clothes. come to find out he was on suspension and have since been fired for downloading nekkid pictures off of a chicks cell phone that he pulled over to his PDA and was showing them off to his buddies and court personnel. dumbass. so when he showed up the DA escorted him out of the courtroom and said his testimony was not needed.
i got a jury directed verdict of "not guilty"
oh and by the way noodle, i had been playing poker that night myself. good luck brother!

russotto · 07-25-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plthijinx

if you had 4 beers over 3 hours, either your metabolism is slow or the machine was out of whack.

Or all the propaganda used to get the BAC limit reduced is a lot of bullshit. Which it is. You can reach .08 in as little as one drink, not the four they claim. Of course, that's one actual drink, not the 12 oz of 3.6% beer they use as a "standard drink".

lookout123 · 07-25-2005, 12:15 PM

and if you haven't had water, etc. to rinse you mouth and the pipes, the machine will give a slightly higher than legit reading. don't trust the breathalyzer - ever.

in most states you have the right to a blood test. i was stopped just a couple of months ago. i only had one beer so i had absolutely ZERO concern about the results - but i still very politely refused the breathalyzer and informed the officer that i would be more than happy to take a ride with him to have my blood drawn. he got all pissed off and tried threatening me with the consequences of non-cooperation. i told him that i don't trust his machines, but again i was happy to give blood. when he went back to his patrol car he mysteriously got a call on a "more important matter" and he would have to let me go. moron.

the downside is if you think you might fail the bloodtest - don't do it! most lawyers won't even take cases arguing against that type of evidence.

plthijinx · 07-25-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123

and if you haven't had water, etc. to rinse you mouth and the pipes, the machine will give a slightly higher than legit reading. don't trust the breathalyzer - ever......

yeah i forgot to mention that. the court made me put a "smart start" on my truck and the company that installed made it a point to stress how important it was to rinse your mouth with water. one time i didn't rinse very well after using mouth wash and it registered. that pissed me off big time. i went inside, rinsed REAL well and got the truck started. just the process is a pain.

edit: a smart start is an ignition interlocking device that you have to breath into to start your vehicle and then it asks you again within the first 10 minutes after starting, then at random after that.

wolf · 07-25-2005, 01:15 PM

In Pennsylvania you have a different driver's license if you have an ignition interlock ... the normally blue border on the license is red. Does TX do the same thing?

(there is also a difference in Under 21 Licenses ... they are printed in "portrait" rather than "landscape")

barefoot serpent · 07-25-2005, 01:21 PM

I've sat on 3 DWI juries and never want to be sitting on the other side of that bar.

View Poll Results: have you had a run-in with DWI/DUI (they're the same in Tx.)
yes but never convicted	2	6.90%
yes and i was convicted	5	17.24%
absolutely not	20	68.97%
i'm offended you asked.	2	6.90%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

05-12-2005, 10:46 AM	#17
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Ah...good question, grasshopper. Plus, I'd rather kill myself than harm someone else. Much rather. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-12-2005, 12:09 PM	#18
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	killing yourself hurts others. suicide (or suicide by stupidity) is the singlemost selfish and hurtful thing in the world. the ones who do it obviously don't know how many people are actually rooting for them, and that's too bad. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

05-13-2005, 06:23 AM	#22
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	I think you know the point where you really shouldn't be driving. I have rollercoastered home after a couple of wines but been in control. Other nights I've stubbornly got in the car after 16 vodkas and been dragged out by a friend. On those nights I am aware somewhere deep in my consciousness that it's not a good idea. I've never done it, friend or no friend. Know thyself, yah. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

07-25-2005, 10:05 AM	#24
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I can relate. I got my DUI last July, but I refused the breathalyzer. Lawyer got me off on a Failure to Maintain Proper Distance. Cost around 3,000 plus a suspended license for 6 months. My heart goes out to you, noodle. Remember: This, too, shall pass. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-12-2005, 06:23 PM	#20
SmurfAbuser Simulated Simulacrum Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39	I have an alcoholic friend who specfically chooses places to live based on whether or not they're within "staggering distance" to a bar. And he ends up moving a lot, but that's a whole other story. Crazy shit, but at least he doesn't drink and drive anymore. As for the cab fare thing, I'll pay $50 or $100 for a cab ride in a heartbeat if I know I'm drunk and shouldn't drive. I'd rather be broke for the rest of the week than dead (or even worse, kill someone else). Haven't been down the DUI road, and with my luck, I'd get popped the first time I try.

07-25-2005, 09:13 AM	#23
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	DUI lesson part two: Lesson begun, 7/23/05. Court date, 9/8/05. Blew a .08 at a checkpoint after playing poker and drinking 4 beers over the course of 3 hours. This one's gonna cost me, and I was just getting my shit together financially. We'll see what happens....lawyer shopping today. Please don't drive after drinking even ONE alcoholic beverage -- your whole life can get screwed up in 5 minutes, and you don't have to even be TRYING to get drunk. None of the beverages I consume in the future will contain alcohol. Expensive refreshment, that.

07-25-2005, 10:05 AM	#25
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	if you had 4 beers over 3 hours, either your metabolism is slow or the machine was out of whack. with any luck after several court date reschedules you might stand a chance. on mine, i got lucky because the officer missed the court date. he had shown up the day before and actually thought i was the DA because I was wearing a suit and looked the part i suppose. he didn't even recognize me. it was sooo funny. he came up to me after he had talked to my lawyer and when he asked where the DA was for the case my lawyer had misunderstood him and thought he was asking for me to which he pointed at me. hehe, the cop walked up i stood up as he approached me: me extending hand: "hey, how've you been?" cop: "oh good. good. say are you the DA?" me: chuckling "no i'm the guy you arrested" cop: taken aback "oh, uh, uh (thumbing through his little book) oh, you mister so and so?" me: "yeah, so you been doing ok?" cop: uhm yyyeah, do you know where the DA is?" me: pointing "yeah she's right over there." the look on his face was priceless. anyway the trial was bumped to the next day and he had to work the night shift so he was asleep when he was supposed to be in court. now the cop that gave me my video downtown did show up but in street clothes. come to find out he was on suspension and have since been fired for downloading nekkid pictures off of a chicks cell phone that he pulled over to his PDA and was showing them off to his buddies and court personnel. dumbass. so when he showed up the DA escorted him out of the courtroom and said his testimony was not needed. i got a jury directed verdict of "not guilty" oh and by the way noodle, i had been playing poker that night myself. good luck brother! __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

07-25-2005, 12:15 PM	#27
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	and if you haven't had water, etc. to rinse you mouth and the pipes, the machine will give a slightly higher than legit reading. don't trust the breathalyzer - ever. in most states you have the right to a blood test. i was stopped just a couple of months ago. i only had one beer so i had absolutely ZERO concern about the results - but i still very politely refused the breathalyzer and informed the officer that i would be more than happy to take a ride with him to have my blood drawn. he got all pissed off and tried threatening me with the consequences of non-cooperation. i told him that i don't trust his machines, but again i was happy to give blood. when he went back to his patrol car he mysteriously got a call on a "more important matter" and he would have to let me go. moron. the downside is if you think you might fail the bloodtest - don't do it! most lawyers won't even take cases arguing against that type of evidence. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-25-2005, 01:15 PM	#29
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	In Pennsylvania you have a different driver's license if you have an ignition interlock ... the normally blue border on the license is red. Does TX do the same thing? (there is also a difference in Under 21 Licenses ... they are printed in "portrait" rather than "landscape") __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-25-2005, 01:21 PM	#30
barefoot serpent go ahead, abbrev. it Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 2,623	I've sat on 3 DWI juries and never want to be sitting on the other side of that bar.

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