have you ever detoxed - Page 2

jaguar · 05-13-2005, 04:04 AM

.....most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs. Ever heard of steak tartare? Ever eaten cookie dough? I've never had food posioning.

Gwennie! · 05-13-2005, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar

.....most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs. Ever heard of steak tartare? Ever eaten cookie dough? I've never had food posioning.

Fuck yea, I have eaten Steak Tartare.

Anacdodatal evidence no longer applies in this century. If you don't pay attention to gross statistics, you are cheating yourself.

Maybe this is a sticking point for me. I am a Search software engineer based in statistial methods. The numbers don't lie. My personal experience is humbled by the statistcs gathered by my software.

jaguar · 05-13-2005, 05:06 AM

so you wouldn't eat it any more? In my experience good restaurants and good cooks don't poison their customers, shitty fast food places and questionable kitchen practices do. Such information is very hard to gather statistically. I'm sure you're familiar with the complex problems involved in adding circumstantial and background contextual information to statistical information. So far this theory has me eating raw eggs and not getting sick. The EU has outlawed a number of traditional smallgoods because it thinks the manufacturing processes are unsafe. Yet people have been making and eating these things for hundreds of years, sometimes things don't fit the model.

Beestie · 05-13-2005, 08:19 AM

I used to eat raw eggs all the time. I've had steak tartare, ostrich tartare and every kind of sushi known to man. But I only eat stuff like that at establishments that would stand to lose a lot should something go wrong.

Did anyone notice in Napoleon Dynamite where the farmers drank a whole glass of raw eggs for lunch?

I agree with jag - there's nothing wrong with this stuff if its prepared with care. Hence, I don't eat sushi from that place in the mall where all the angst-filled teenagers work.

cowhead · 05-13-2005, 03:18 PM

the best way I ever detoxed was taking a couple of gingerbaths and eating nothing but fruit and raw veggies, with a shot of cider vinegar every day and drinking nothing but green tea (all of course bought from either the farmers market or the local heathfood store)for 10 days. felt great afterwards.. then it was back to the re-toxifying. (oh! and you might want to get the liquid forms of both vitamians and amino acids. the second time I added those and I didn't feel too bad in the energy department)

russotto · 05-13-2005, 03:18 PM

The salmonella, if present, is on the outside of the egg. Perhaps there's a way to safely wash the egg.

Not that I think home-remedy DETOX is anything but a weird fad of some sort.

lookout123 · 05-13-2005, 03:25 PM

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most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs.

oooh, theeeeere's a convincing argument that no harm comes from raw eggs. "look honey the europeans do it - it must be ok."

Gwennie! · 05-13-2005, 03:42 PM

My brother works for a large restaurant chain as a product developer. He says that restaurants now buy unshelled homogenized eggs for use in cesear salad and things like that.

wolf · 05-14-2005, 01:14 AM

It was in Rocky. It must be okay, right?

I liked Orange Juliuses a lot more before I found out what was in them. (Pineapple and Strawberry were my absolute favorite flavors)

Gwennie! · 05-14-2005, 04:29 AM

Historical precedence for eating raw eggs doesn't count much. The farming practices are completely different today. With Tyson in Arkansas cramming the birds into tiny spaces mass producing eggs in unhealthy conditions. Sure you can eggs from find organicly-fed free-roaming chickens. But, to me this is not a risk worth taking. Sushi is a delicious risk worth taking, but as said above, only in the right places.

busterb · 05-14-2005, 07:54 AM

Check http://www.tysonfoodsinc.com/freshme.../caseready.asp The case ready meat walmart and others sell are good to go for 16 days. Right!

jaguar · 05-15-2005, 01:44 PM

Kind of hit on the key of it there Gwennie, by decent food, not shit (whether it be ingredients or meals) and you don't have a problem. You get what you pay for. Organic stuff is interesting, I did a few double-blind tests to see if it really did taste better, yup. The interesting bit is that because it is organic is causes the time it can remain on shelves and storage as well as transport time to be dropped dramatically which is probably as responsible for the better taste and cost as anything else.

Catwoman · 05-16-2005, 04:56 AM

Sometimes I come to a thread and realise jaguar has already written what I want to say - only better. So I don't write anything. Except I just wrote this. But that doesn't count.

Undertoad · 05-16-2005, 07:31 AM

You two should get together for a coffee drink.

not being sarcastic here for once

Catwoman · 05-16-2005, 08:05 AM

What is a coffee drink?

I've heard of drinks, and coffee. But the two together? A bit unecessary.

avoiding comment

05-13-2005, 04:04 AM	#16
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	.....most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs. Ever heard of steak tartare? Ever eaten cookie dough? I've never had food posioning. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-13-2005, 05:06 AM	#18
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	so you wouldn't eat it any more? In my experience good restaurants and good cooks don't poison their customers, shitty fast food places and questionable kitchen practices do. Such information is very hard to gather statistically. I'm sure you're familiar with the complex problems involved in adding circumstantial and background contextual information to statistical information. So far this theory has me eating raw eggs and not getting sick. The EU has outlawed a number of traditional smallgoods because it thinks the manufacturing processes are unsafe. Yet people have been making and eating these things for hundreds of years, sometimes things don't fit the model. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-13-2005, 08:19 AM	#19
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	I used to eat raw eggs all the time. I've had steak tartare, ostrich tartare and every kind of sushi known to man. But I only eat stuff like that at establishments that would stand to lose a lot should something go wrong. Did anyone notice in Napoleon Dynamite where the farmers drank a whole glass of raw eggs for lunch? I agree with jag - there's nothing wrong with this stuff if its prepared with care. Hence, I don't eat sushi from that place in the mall where all the angst-filled teenagers work. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

05-13-2005, 03:18 PM	#20
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	the best way I ever detoxed was taking a couple of gingerbaths and eating nothing but fruit and raw veggies, with a shot of cider vinegar every day and drinking nothing but green tea (all of course bought from either the farmers market or the local heathfood store)for 10 days. felt great afterwards.. then it was back to the re-toxifying. (oh! and you might want to get the liquid forms of both vitamians and amino acids. the second time I added those and I didn't feel too bad in the energy department) __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

05-13-2005, 03:42 PM	#23
Gwennie! Not Female at Birth Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 166	My brother works for a large restaurant chain as a product developer. He says that restaurants now buy unshelled homogenized eggs for use in cesear salad and things like that. __________________ Only The Crumbliest Flakiest Gwennie!

05-13-2005, 03:18 PM	#21
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The salmonella, if present, is on the outside of the egg. Perhaps there's a way to safely wash the egg. Not that I think home-remedy DETOX is anything but a weird fad of some sort.

05-14-2005, 01:14 AM	#24
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	It was in Rocky. It must be okay, right? I liked Orange Juliuses a lot more before I found out what was in them. (Pineapple and Strawberry were my absolute favorite flavors) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-14-2005, 04:29 AM	#25
Gwennie! Not Female at Birth Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 166	Historical precedence for eating raw eggs doesn't count much. The farming practices are completely different today. With Tyson in Arkansas cramming the birds into tiny spaces mass producing eggs in unhealthy conditions. Sure you can eggs from find organicly-fed free-roaming chickens. But, to me this is not a risk worth taking. Sushi is a delicious risk worth taking, but as said above, only in the right places. __________________ Only The Crumbliest Flakiest Gwennie!

05-14-2005, 07:54 AM	#26
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Check http://www.tysonfoodsinc.com/freshme.../caseready.asp The case ready meat walmart and others sell are good to go for 16 days. Right! __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

05-15-2005, 01:44 PM	#27
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Kind of hit on the key of it there Gwennie, by decent food, not shit (whether it be ingredients or meals) and you don't have a problem. You get what you pay for. Organic stuff is interesting, I did a few double-blind tests to see if it really did taste better, yup. The interesting bit is that because it is organic is causes the time it can remain on shelves and storage as well as transport time to be dropped dramatically which is probably as responsible for the better taste and cost as anything else. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-16-2005, 04:56 AM	#28
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	Sometimes I come to a thread and realise jaguar has already written what I want to say - only better. So I don't write anything. Except I just wrote this. But that doesn't count. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

05-16-2005, 07:31 AM	#29
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	You two should get together for a coffee drink. not being sarcastic here for once

05-16-2005, 08:05 AM	#30
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	What is a coffee drink? I've heard of drinks, and coffee. But the two together? A bit unecessary. avoiding comment __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

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