The Right's least-favorite righties - Page 2

Clodfobble · 08-03-2005, 07:21 PM

Pat Robertson, or Pat Buchanan?

Griff · 08-03-2005, 07:24 PM

Ooops!

Buchanan

tw · 08-03-2005, 07:26 PM

Dan Qyale was too hated to make the list.

Clodfobble · 08-04-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

Dan Qyale was too hated to make the list.

I thought you didn't hate people, tw.

tw · 08-05-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I thought you didn't hate people, tw.

Its not my list. But I certainly tried hard enough to get on it. Couldn't get on Nixon's list either. Hell. I can't even get excommunicated.

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-07-2005, 01:13 AM

Okay, I can't resist: is TW Catholic and/or does he go in the woods? :p

Undertoad · 08-07-2005, 09:35 AM

And her footnotes don't hold up too well if you check them out.

edited: sorry HM, you already said that, I missed your post that time

warch · 08-07-2005, 02:45 PM

Senior guerilla, why I identify as a democrat and generally vote that way:
1. Privacy issues: Pro woman's right to choose and direct her medical care, gay/human rights and equality.
Secular issues: Separation of church and state (I'd like a stonger Democratic stance on this) Pro Science, strong secular public education, stem cell research, arts and cultural support.
Economic issues: Only political party seemingly aware of the huge health care crisis- thus offering hope for small businesses. Committed to Social security. Push to raise minimum wage, pay equity. family leave. Seem to be less in the pocket of mega corporations, at least they dont sit at the table to develop energy/enviro policy.
Security issues: not afraid of intelligence. not afraid to go get 'em. At home, willing to take on the NRA when logic demands.
Environmental issues: protection of undeveloped lands, not afraid to regulate emissions. promoting Science as reality check and great potential for conservation and economic development.
General Platform: Inclusive, progressive.

Undertoad · 08-08-2005, 07:35 AM

Did you hear Clinton's speeches in China UG? I was even an LPer at the time and his words ran chills down my spine.

warch · 08-08-2005, 11:48 AM

Bah. Wrap the NRA up in the flag and John Wayne and Moses and deer antlers and antigenocide righteousnes(!) all you want. I aint buying. It's a freakin' poltiical lobbying organization for arms manufacturers and a vehicle to promote a political wedge. Guns are getting too old fashioned these days for genocide, anyway. Will the NRA support my right to legally protect myself with a nice dirty bomb?

Ive found that staunch Libertarians are unrealistic, cultish, isolationist, and I think, foolish.

mrnoodle · 08-08-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by warch

It's a freakin' poltiical lobbying organization for arms manufacturers and a vehicle to promote a political wedge.

The NRA has never pretended to be anything but a lobbying organization. They are single-issue, as lobbying orgs tend to be. They are the counterpoint to HCI, et al, who seek to take away the right of law-abiding citizens to use weapons to defend themselves. These anti-gun lobbying organizations are no less extreme for their "what about the CHILDREN??" bullshit tactics and fake statistics. Yin and yang -- one is no more [insert cusswords here] than the other. I just hope my side wins; taking away my freedom won't make you any safer, but it will add decades to the lifespan of anyone who victimizes me or my family. Hope that makes you feel better.

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Guns are getting too old fashioned these days for genocide, anyway. Will the NRA support my right to legally protect myself with a nice dirty bomb?

No, that's the NNDBA. NRA only cares about guns.

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Ive found that staunch Libertarians are unrealistic, cultish, isolationist, and I think, foolish.

So are Trekkies, Quakers, RPGers, programmers, muzzleloader enthusiasts, skydivers, and any other group worth its salt.

But how foolish is the "mainstream?" The real laugh comes from us. We crave government intervention in every aspect of our lives. We want government to provide for our needs while regulating what we eat, drink, or smoke (but not what we have sex with, or what we do with the result). We want them to protect speech that is hateful to one group, while outlawing speech that's hateful to another. We want police to be at our doorstep within seconds when we need them, but to be otherwise invisible.

We think we deserve to buy 50 cent per bale toilet paper from Warehouse R Us, but we don't want the people who own the joint to make any money. We think we deserve to drive cars, but don't want the oil. We don't want anyone cutting down forests, but we buy new houses instead of old ones. We don't want any "racial profiling" going on, so to stop 30-year-old Arab men from putting bombs on busses, we search 80-year-old white women.

Yeah, those libertarians are wacky.

mrnoodle · 08-08-2005, 04:46 PM

Speaking of Coulter, here's a transcript of her and O'Reilly arguing about Iraq and Vietnam. Deconstruct.

richlevy · 08-08-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

Speaking of Coulter, here's a transcript of her and O'Reilly arguing about Iraq and Vietnam. Deconstruct.

The bitch is nuts. Or, if you prefer, I could summarize.

Happy Monkey · 08-08-2005, 09:13 PM

O'Reilly's nuts, too.

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-09-2005, 01:55 AM

People who bank on either O'Reilly or Coulter being nuts end up perennially disappointed. Especially if they keep on believing that.

08-03-2005, 07:24 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Ooops! Buchanan __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-07-2005, 01:13 AM	#6
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Okay, I can't resist: is TW Catholic and/or does he go in the woods? :p __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-08-2005, 09:13 PM	#14
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	O'Reilly's nuts, too. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-09-2005, 01:55 AM	#15
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	People who bank on either O'Reilly or Coulter being nuts end up perennially disappointed. Especially if they keep on believing that. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-03-2005, 07:21 PM	#1
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Pat Robertson, or Pat Buchanan?

08-03-2005, 07:26 PM	#3
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Dan Qyale was too hated to make the list.

08-07-2005, 09:35 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	And her footnotes don't hold up too well if you check them out. edited: sorry HM, you already said that, I missed your post that time

08-07-2005, 02:45 PM	#8
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Senior guerilla, why I identify as a democrat and generally vote that way: 1. Privacy issues: Pro woman's right to choose and direct her medical care, gay/human rights and equality. Secular issues: Separation of church and state (I'd like a stonger Democratic stance on this) Pro Science, strong secular public education, stem cell research, arts and cultural support. Economic issues: Only political party seemingly aware of the huge health care crisis- thus offering hope for small businesses. Committed to Social security. Push to raise minimum wage, pay equity. family leave. Seem to be less in the pocket of mega corporations, at least they dont sit at the table to develop energy/enviro policy. Security issues: not afraid of intelligence. not afraid to go get 'em. At home, willing to take on the NRA when logic demands. Environmental issues: protection of undeveloped lands, not afraid to regulate emissions. promoting Science as reality check and great potential for conservation and economic development. General Platform: Inclusive, progressive.

08-08-2005, 07:35 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Did you hear Clinton's speeches in China UG? I was even an LPer at the time and his words ran chills down my spine.

08-08-2005, 11:48 AM	#10
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Bah. Wrap the NRA up in the flag and John Wayne and Moses and deer antlers and antigenocide righteousnes(!) all you want. I aint buying. It's a freakin' poltiical lobbying organization for arms manufacturers and a vehicle to promote a political wedge. Guns are getting too old fashioned these days for genocide, anyway. Will the NRA support my right to legally protect myself with a nice dirty bomb? Ive found that staunch Libertarians are unrealistic, cultish, isolationist, and I think, foolish.

08-08-2005, 04:46 PM	#12
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Speaking of Coulter, here's a transcript of her and O'Reilly arguing about Iraq and Vietnam. Deconstruct.

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