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Elspode · 11-13-2005, 11:24 AM

This is going to go down in history as one of the most colossal corporate blunders ever.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-20-2005, 02:04 PM

DOXPARA says it's far and wide.

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Red signifies evidence of First4Internet accesses; Green signifies accesses to Sony's enhanced CD site (included with the rootkit, but also elsewhere). Most links are yellow, though: Over 3/4ths of networks found resolving Sony during the sampling period also resolved First4Internet. The geographic evidence lines up pretty nicely as well

xoxoxoBruce · 11-20-2005, 02:05 PM

And the Far East.

Troubleshooter · 11-21-2005, 11:34 AM

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/21...tid=233&tid=17

Sony
Zellis writes "In a press conference held on Nov 18 Cary Sherman, the president of the RIAA, stated in reference to Sony BMG's "rootkit" software that "there is nothing unusual about technology being used to protect intellectual property." According to Sherman, the problem with Sony BMG's XCP DRM software was simply that "the technology they used contained a security vulnerability of which they were unaware". He goes on to praise Sony's "responsible" attitude in handling the problem, saying "how many times that software applications created the same problem? Lots. I wonder whether they've taken as aggressive steps as SonyBMG has when those vulnerabilities were discovered, or did they just post a patch on the Internet?" It seems that the latest spin is to portray the Sony rootkit as no more of an issue than a software coding error that unintentionally creates a security hole. Will they get away with it among the non-technical public?" Arguably, Sherman is right -- but I enjoy much more the fact that this whole r00tkit fiasco has set DRM back by years. Gogogo poor implementations!

Undertoad · 11-12-2005, 12:08 PM

I would be happy enough if Sony were made poor by it.

The stories of big label horror are starting to really come through now, and not a week goes by where I don't hear about some really awesome music that is simply unavailable because a label maintains the publishing rights and has left it out of print.

For example the first two Bears albums cannot be purchased at any price. There may be only 1000 people who want that material. Nobody is going to make a dime off it. But no matter, it is music which cannot be had legally.

Typically, in these cases, the artist says go ahead and b**tleg it. They will not see a dime from it if it is ever sold anyway.

wolf · 11-13-2005, 12:16 PM

I think that was New Coke.

Bullitt · 11-13-2005, 01:57 PM

I was waiting for this to happen.. a new twist

richlevy · 11-13-2005, 03:15 PM

This could be Bertelsmann's (BMG) biggest mistake since publishing "The Christmas Book of the Hitler Youth" back in the 40's.

Somewhere in the bowels of BMG is a real Dr. Strangelove

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[Strangelove admits that he investigated making such a machine]
Dr. Strangelove: Based on the findings of the report, my conclusion was that this idea was not a practical deterrent for reasons which at this moment must be all too obvious.

Undertoad · 11-13-2005, 05:18 PM

Via Boing Boing, the Sony rootkit contains copyrighted, licensed software and Sony is not in compliance with the license.

Kitsune · 11-14-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Via Boing Boing, the Sony rootkit contains copyrighted, licensed software and Sony is not in compliance with the license.

Bwahahaha! This just keeps getting better! This is the best free entertainment I've had in awhile!

Elspode · 11-14-2005, 03:08 PM

I'll bet someone in Sony's corporate headquarters is committing hari-kiri right about now.

Kitsune · 11-14-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

I'll bet someone in Sony's corporate headquarters is committing hari-kiri right about now.

Nah. They'll survive this just fine, continue to sell lots of music, and turn a profit in the end. Even if they left the DRM install on their CDs, they'd do just fine.

In fact, I bet any sales losses they suffer from this will be blamed on piracy and further push their point to congress who will happily pass any Digital Copyright laws Sony requests.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-14-2005, 06:30 PM

It will be interesting to see if the indignation on the web will translate to financial backlash.

SteveDallas · 11-14-2005, 03:20 PM

And the pathetic thing is it doesn't work. How much DRM would have to be put on a CD to prevent one person from making MP3's? I submit the answer is darn near infinite, and once there's one copy, well, there she goes.

Happy Monkey · 11-14-2005, 03:59 PM

They could send an invincible, uncorruptible RIAA executive to accompany each CD wherever it goes, to make sure the so-called 'customer' is not using it in an unapproved manner.

11-13-2005, 11:24 AM	#1
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	This is going to go down in history as one of the most colossal corporate blunders ever. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-20-2005, 02:05 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	And the Far East. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 04-07-2007 at 05:55 PM.

11-21-2005, 11:34 AM	#4
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	President of RIAA Says Sony-BMG Did Nothing Wrong http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/21...tid=233&tid=17 Sony Zellis writes "In a press conference held on Nov 18 Cary Sherman, the president of the RIAA, stated in reference to Sony BMG's "rootkit" software that "there is nothing unusual about technology being used to protect intellectual property." According to Sherman, the problem with Sony BMG's XCP DRM software was simply that "the technology they used contained a security vulnerability of which they were unaware". He goes on to praise Sony's "responsible" attitude in handling the problem, saying "how many times that software applications created the same problem? Lots. I wonder whether they've taken as aggressive steps as SonyBMG has when those vulnerabilities were discovered, or did they just post a patch on the Internet?" It seems that the latest spin is to portray the Sony rootkit as no more of an issue than a software coding error that unintentionally creates a security hole. Will they get away with it among the non-technical public?" Arguably, Sherman is right -- but I enjoy much more the fact that this whole r00tkit fiasco has set DRM back by years. Gogogo poor implementations! __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

11-13-2005, 12:16 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think that was New Coke. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-13-2005, 01:57 PM	#7
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	I was waiting for this to happen.. a new twist __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

11-12-2005, 12:08 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I would be happy enough if Sony were made poor by it. The stories of big label horror are starting to really come through now, and not a week goes by where I don't hear about some really awesome music that is simply unavailable because a label maintains the publishing rights and has left it out of print. For example the first two Bears albums cannot be purchased at any price. There may be only 1000 people who want that material. Nobody is going to make a dime off it. But no matter, it is music which cannot be had legally. Typically, in these cases, the artist says go ahead and b**tleg it. They will not see a dime from it if it is ever sold anyway.

11-13-2005, 05:18 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Via Boing Boing, the Sony rootkit contains copyrighted, licensed software and Sony is not in compliance with the license.

11-14-2005, 03:08 PM	#11
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I'll bet someone in Sony's corporate headquarters is committing hari-kiri right about now. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-14-2005, 06:30 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It will be interesting to see if the indignation on the web will translate to financial backlash. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-14-2005, 03:20 PM	#14
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	And the pathetic thing is it doesn't work. How much DRM would have to be put on a CD to prevent one person from making MP3's? I submit the answer is darn near infinite, and once there's one copy, well, there she goes.

11-14-2005, 03:59 PM	#15
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	They could send an invincible, uncorruptible RIAA executive to accompany each CD wherever it goes, to make sure the so-called 'customer' is not using it in an unapproved manner. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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