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01-30-2008, 11:41 PM
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I am totally tailposting here, but.......
Isn't the issue the planes speed relative to the earth? If the plane is spinning on a treadmill, then it isn't moving at all relative to the earth. I must be missing something - lil help?
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01-30-2008, 11:47 PM
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if there were no wheels, the plane would fall off the treadmill you dill.
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yeah....the treadmill is unable to cancel the plane's motion because the wheels of the plane negate any and all reverse motion the treadmill can generate.
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01-30-2008, 11:48 PM
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the wheels are what power the treadmill in reverse - therefore a net movement of.......................
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01-30-2008, 11:53 PM
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Plane wheels, freewheel. They have no effect on the movement of the plane unless you put the brakes on.
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01-31-2008, 12:00 AM
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01-30-2008, 11:52 PM
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the wheels on the plane?
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01-31-2008, 12:02 AM
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not if the wheels are free to spin, it isnt.
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01-31-2008, 12:03 AM
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You know how cyclists can get those rollers that they can use indoors to train on when it's raining?
Well, this treadmill thing is the same concept really in some ways. If planes were able to take off simply by the thrust created by engines from the treadmill, doesn't it stand to reason that airports would create some kind of giant set of rollers so they don't need long runways?
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01-31-2008, 12:23 AM
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You were almost right, LJ. The Mythbusters episode didn't cause people to argue more--only people who obviously didn't watch it to continue to rehash arguments from the last eight thousand pages...
Hey classicman: SHUT UP AND WATCH THE GODDAMN EPISODE. Ali, I'll make a small concession for you since you perhaps can't get the show in Oz. Cyclists--just like cars, just like people's feet on a treadmill--are pushing on the ground to go forward. The plane is not pushing on the ground, with its wheels or anything else. It's pushing on the air with those massively explosive jets it has. You know where else planes can take off from? WATER. That shit's just as slippery as a backwards-moving treadmill. |
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I still don't get it though.
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