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Old 12-30-2009, 11:52 PM   #286
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UG....two (multiple part) questions for you.

Do you accept the principles of a "just war"? Was Iraq a "just war" when it posed no direct threat to the US and when the US invasion resulted in an estimated 100,000 civilian deaths and 2-4 million displaced persons/refugees?

And why Iraq and not North Korea, China, Myanmar or even Cuba? Is it the US role to invade those countries to promote democracy? If not, where do you make the distinction?


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Some people's thinking is really twisted by their ideology. For example, Redux recently chided me for calling policies I dislike "socialist." He really thought that was how I viewed the matter. He completely misses the idea that a policy's socialist features would be the very reason I disapprove! There isn't much you can do with a bright man who is being kept so silly, so not-with-it. So stupid. There, I said it. And there, I probably will keep on saying it.
Or perhaps you are too blinded by your own ideology to recognize and accept or acknowledge the distinctions between socialism (at its very core, controlling or owning the means of production for the long term benefit of the people) and economic liberalism (regulating or in the worst case, managing the means of production as a short term economic policy).

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Old 12-31-2009, 09:38 AM   #287
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recognize and accept or acknowledge the distinctions between socialism (at its very core, controlling or owning the means of production for the long term benefit of the people)

and economic liberalism (regulating or in the worst case, managing the means of production as a short term economic policy).
good distinction.
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