Evolutionary Science-v- Creationism - Page 21

Brown Thrasher · 02-17-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Religion is only a science that became so introverted as to not advance itself. And that is the overall philosophy.

Did I miss any important buzz words?

Pretty strong words. "When a speculative philosopher believes he has comprehended the world once and for all in his system, he is deceiving himself, he has merely comprehended himself and then naively projected that view upon the world." C.G. Jung
I can't believe that statement about religion being so intoverted as to not advance itself. I am neither religious nor atheisis. I consider myself agnostic.
However, the argument you presented is of shallow thought in my opinion.
Let me get this straight. religion is science and because of the introversion it is now philosophy..... Is that your qoute? I hope not. One of the problems with religion as I see it is the extroversion. Trying to get others to believe because you do...... You didn't miss any "buzz" words, I could reconize. However, I am still reeling over your statement......

tw · 07-15-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Thrasher

Pretty strong words. "When a speculative philosopher believes he has comprehended the world once and for all in his system, he is deceiving himself, he has merely comprehended himself and then naively projected that view upon the world." C.G. Jung
I can't believe that statement about religion being so intoverted as to not advance itself. ...
However, the argument you presented is of shallow thought in my opinion.

The statement - that religion does not advance itself - is based on upon extensive reasoning AND is well based upon current examples. Concepts were posted earlier, in this and in following discussions. With many examples, religion is what happens when the status quo and dictatorial commandments only from learned people thousands of years ago have credibility. All good philosophies and science never stop advancing. Religion does just the opposite. Religion is based upon a concept that demands only prophets thousands of years ago had sufficient knowledge. Religion is ripe to be perverted by those whose 'charisma' becomes god's laws. Charisma as even Hitler used to blame the Jews. Charisma: propaganda to pervert those who don't use their brain and therefore blindly follow.
From Evolutionary Science-v- Creationism
Posted 22 Dec 2004 in the Philosophy section:

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... Evolution is science, whether you choose to understand it or not. Creationism is religion, whatever pseudoscientific trappings they try to dress it in. Science has a place in science classes, and religion does not.

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Originally Posted by tw

Not exactly. Religion was really nothing more than man's early attempt at science. Much later, principles (new tools) important to science - the need for both theory and experiemental confirmation - was added to the body called science. Science during the bible's time had no such tools. Today those who blindly believe the bible must then deny what a fact really is. ...
The bible was a good attempt at explaining many sciences that mankind needed to build a civilization. Much early science was based mostly on parables. But in all good sciences (including those that grew from Islam and Buddhism), mankind advances: learns more of god's laws everyday. Unfortunately, there are these ostriches who say, "Everything we need to know is in the bible". Reality does not work that way. People who worship a real god learn more of god's laws every day. That means the bible has been replaced repeatedly with better science books.

If you assume that posted paragraph was based upon shallow thinking, then you have well over "three thousand, five hundred and twenty eight words" of reading to do.

I stand by my premise with vigor. Concepts based upon too many examples in history, current events, and logical thinking. Current religions are just another version of pagan religions promoted by the Greeks and Romans - with all the same philosophies based in human wants and desires. Any god that has human traits is nothing more than a human's own self serving creation - much like an invisible friend or the Oracle of Delphi. Religion not based upon the realities of our universe and what a real and powerful god must be. Religion is a classic example of what is created when mankind stops advancing - when man stops innovating - when people blindly worship some flawed text books. When the prophets decree everything only from what they knew at that time.

It cannot be said strong enough because religious extremism is a threat to the advancement of mankind. Religious extremism is about worshipping your fears (an emotion) rather than thinking logically (an essential factor in mankind's advancement).

Posted here is the respect that religion deserves.

OnyxCougar · 02-03-2005, 10:45 AM

Nope!

wolf · 02-03-2005, 12:58 PM

I thought it was some sort of small bird, kind of like a warbler, only faster.

Guess I was wrong.

lumberjim · 02-04-2005, 04:09 PM

shut up, ya big nosed slut!

garnet · 02-04-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

shut up, ya big nosed slut!

Awwww, LJ. I adore you and your crooked yellow teeth...

garnet · 02-07-2005, 02:33 PM

Hmmm, can we change the subject back to tw's experience at the sewage treatment plant, please? I'm sure that's far more interesting than listening to your yelling and name-calling...

Brown Thrasher · 02-08-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

Hmmm, can we change the subject back to tw's experience at the sewage treatment plant, please? I'm sure that's far more interesting than listening to your yelling and name-calling...

Actually, I think you started the irrational name calling. I thought this was a philosophy site not an english tutotrial. Agian, I think Your still having a problem with your superiority complex. Surely, you didn't evolve, nor were you created in a sewage plant. At least, I hope not........ If so, why don't you start a site on english and it's proper usage... I have definetly not heard anything you have had to say that remotely had anything to do with philososphy.

jinx · 02-08-2005, 02:09 PM

Garnet can not possibly be the first person to have ever corrected your bad spelling and grammar... why are you taking it so badly? You screwed up, get over it, move on... or if you take this much pride in it, maybe put a little more effort into it or something. Just a suggestion...

Brown Thrasher · 02-09-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

Garnet can not possibly be the first person to have ever corrected your bad spelling and grammar... why are you taking it so badly? You screwed up, get over it, move on... or if you take this much pride in it, maybe put a little more effort into it or something. Just a suggestion...

no, your wrong. Scweing up. is when i screwed my 12th graDe ENGISh teacher. i got over it and moved on. However, I have a 24 year old daughter for that srew up. She's very bright. Must have been the witch that was trolling that she got that from. Just a suggestion for you, as your uptight friend. Get a life talk about the subject of the ORIGINAAlll postt. Again, hopefully youR educated and if so you had some basis psychology. Don't you know by trying to look smart; your actually sounding like a selfabsorbed idiot like your friend g something. If I haD any desire i would use proper captalizatioN, Pronunciation and spllllingg. bUT ASSHOLES THAT THINK THEY ARE BRITE BY LOOkING FOR SPELLING errrorS eTC...... ARE DEFINETLY OVERCOMPESATING FOR A LACK OF SOMETHING.........bY THE WAY, Your NOT oF THE MALE SPEcCIES ARE YOU?///////////// lOOK uP THE WORD PHILOSOPHY............. pUT A LITTLE MORE INTO IT. WILLYOU?

garnet · 02-10-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brown Thrasher

no, your wrong. Scweing up. is when i screwed my 12th graDe ENGISh teacher. i got over it and moved on. However, I have a 24 year old daughter for that srew up. She's very bright. Must have been the witch that was trolling that she got that from. Just a suggestion for you, as your uptight friend. Get a life talk about the subject of the ORIGINAAlll postt. Again, hopefully youR educated and if so you had some basis psychology. Don't you know by trying to look smart; your actually sounding like a selfabsorbed idiot like your friend g something. If I haD any desire i would use proper captalizatioN, Pronunciation and spllllingg. bUT ASSHOLES THAT THINK THEY ARE BRITE BY LOOkING FOR SPELLING errrorS eTC...... ARE DEFINETLY OVERCOMPESATING FOR A LACK OF SOMETHING.........bY THE WAY, Your NOT oF THE MALE SPEcCIES ARE YOU?///////////// lOOK uP THE WORD PHILOSOPHY............. pUT A LITTLE MORE INTO IT. WILLYOU?

Have you ever had C02 poisoning?

OnyxCougar · 02-07-2005, 04:40 PM

Actually, can we get back to Evolution Theory as it relates to origin of man versus Creationist Theory?

Brown Thrasher · 02-08-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Actually, can we get back to Evolution Theory as it relates to origin of man versus Creationist Theory?

Actually , I tried to do that about thirty post ago..........

Happy Monkey · 02-08-2005, 02:37 PM

When somebody gets agressive in response to spelling correction, there's a pretty good chance they're trolling. If they keep it up, it's almost guaranteed.

jinx · 02-08-2005, 04:11 PM

Ahh.

You know much that is hidden, O Tim.

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02-08-2005, 02:09 PM	#9
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Garnet can not possibly be the first person to have ever corrected your bad spelling and grammar... why are you taking it so badly? You screwed up, get over it, move on... or if you take this much pride in it, maybe put a little more effort into it or something. Just a suggestion... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

02-07-2005, 04:40 PM	#12
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	Actually, can we get back to Evolution Theory as it relates to origin of man versus Creationist Theory? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

02-07-2005, 02:33 PM	#7
garnet ... Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 657	Hmmm, can we change the subject back to tw's experience at the sewage treatment plant, please? I'm sure that's far more interesting than listening to your yelling and name-calling...

02-08-2005, 02:37 PM	#14
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02-08-2005, 04:11 PM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Ahh. You know much that is hidden, O Tim. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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