Who Supports the War(s) - Page 22

MaggieL · 12-10-2002, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I was going to have guns in there, but I don't think mixing guns and alcohol is the best of ideas.

Oh come on....alcohol, tobacco *and* firearms, It's a trifecta. Fire, firesticks and firewater. Of course the *other* trifecta is "sex, drugs and rock-n-roll".

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Griff...are you smelling a new one sentence story here?

Is *that* what that is? I was wondering....:-)

elSicomoro · 12-10-2002, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by MaggieL
Is *that* what that is? I was wondering....:-)

It's like being in a room full of manure, but then you smell something sweet, like Krispy Kremes.

wolf · 12-10-2002, 11:24 PM

I'm not sure, but I think Maggie meant "youth outreach" in a Catholic Church kind of way, rather than a "get them into the LP when they're young and they'll vote LP as adults" kind of way.

That's how I read it, anyway.

wolf · 12-10-2002, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
Oh, wait a minute...slang can't come anyway...he's not on the VIP list...yet.

If necessary, I'll hook him up through my paypal account. I'm already signed up.

Heck, I'm ready to pay his bail resulting from any problems arising at the living poetry experiment, so I'll happily cover him in the VIP room.

Oooh OOH OOH!! (Mr. Kotter, Mr Kott-tair!!) Can I be ammo monitor? I won't drink (*much*) and I'm already trained to do searches. It's part of my job.

elSicomoro · 12-10-2002, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by wolf
I'm not sure, but I think Maggie meant "youth outreach" in a Catholic Church kind of way, rather than a "get them into the LP when they're young and they'll vote LP as adults" kind of way.

Possibly. When I was reading that bit in Radar's post about youth outreach and raves, I just put 2 and 2 together and got 83.

Cairo · 12-10-2002, 11:51 PM

Sycamore,
Golly Gee Whiz....Why pretend like you know me,
when clearly...ya don't! If you want to whine and stomp on sour grapes, take your ball and don't play anymore...but spare me the dramatics, mmmK?

Here's where you have strayed from the Bible and the word of God...the Bible is NOT up for interpretation, that's something lawyers do to get the guilty off the hook. The Bible is translated. If one interprets the Bible, it is now man's word, not God's. In my opinion, people who interpret the Bible or interpret the laws have problems translating the true meaning of it, whether that is intentional is a case by case answer.
The Bible is a book of History,Faith, and Instruction all together, you can not separate one from the others. It's all or nothing...
History: Nations who turned against God were wiped out. Noah built an ark and survived the flood. Jesus lived and preached and was crucified. God spoke to Moses. Sodom and Gomorrah rained brimstone and fire, etc...etc.
Faith: Belief and trust in.(If you don't believe in the Historical happenings, you don't have faith.)
Instruction: Follow His Statutes, and do them.

Here's the link, thanks for the heads-up.

http://www.lcweb.loc.gov/exhibits/scrolls/toc.html

And the ark.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark-05.htm

And Sodom and Gomorrah.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/cities-of-the-plains-02.htm

Here is the link to the attempt to rewrite the history of the Alamo. I live in San Antonio, and am highly offended and appalled, this doesn't include the words of the Houston councilman, but he was all over my T.V. every night for a week talking proudly of deception and lies!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53968,00.html

Cam · 12-11-2002, 12:19 AM

Radar congrats on the marriage

MaggieL · 12-11-2002, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
I'm not sure, but I think Maggie meant "youth outreach" in a Catholic Church kind of way...

Well, that wasn't quite what I was thinking, actually. If you identify somebody dispensing intoxicants at a rave as "Mr E Man", I bet most people don't think of the comic book characters--whether they're "utes" or not.

But if *you* want to think it...go ahead. :-) I remeber the guy who was the "VP of membership and outreach" for the local swingers...I mean, excuse me, "polyamory support group". He did indeed take the word "outreach" pretty literally....although there we were talking about consenting adults.

As for Cairo's assertion that the Bible can be translated--much less *read*--without interpreting it, well, that's a quaint idea. I suppose it's of vital interest to those who want to put forward their own understanding of the Bible as carrying the Authority of The Word Of God to deny that any "interpretation" at the hands of a human has taken place. But that doesn't make the notion any more plausible; any use of language results in interpretation by the listener or reader.

Interestingly enough, one of my-Daddy-the-clergyman's most prized posessions was a highly respected and authoritiative multi-voume Biblical encyclopedic reference, commentary and concordance called "The Interpreter's Bible".

Cam · 12-11-2002, 12:22 AM

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Actually if Dave agreed with me, he would admit he was wrong and he would thus be right. But since he won't admit it he continues to be wrong.

But Radar you specifically described dave as "wrong” you didn't say his statement was "wrong" you just said he was "wrong". Second, you just described yourself as correct, therefore negating any chance of anyone listing to any statement you make. Just trying to point out you lack of diplomacy.

Oh yeah you also resorted to name-calling. Come on Radar lets just all get along, we could be one big huge dysfunctional family.

MaggieL · 12-11-2002, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
Oooh OOH OOH!! (Mr. Kotter, Mr Kott-tair!!) Can I be ammo monitor? I won't drink (*much*) and I'm already trained to do searches. It's part of my job.

Oh,. my. What an interesting thought. :-)

slang · 12-11-2002, 12:25 AM

<h3>Cairo</h3>
nice post, links help a lot. The extra time spent in finding and inserting them into the post is worth having people know WTF yer talking about (even if they dont agree).

Tobiasly · 12-11-2002, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I don't know if this is how it's done or not...but Tob, maybe we should do something like this for the Aloysius Party.

That sounds like a tempting idea, but the vet discovered that our poor mascot, while in for his neutering, also had an umbilical hernia. So not only is his empty sack pathetically dangling around with no useful purpose, his belly is shaved and has a 2-inch incision with stitches.

It's really rather sad. I just can't think of politics with him in this state, so I'm disbanding the Party. I'd rather have it disbanded in its prime anyway, instead of dwindling away like the LP.

Tobiasly · 12-11-2002, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by Cairo
Here's where you have strayed from the Bible and the word of God...the Bible is NOT up for interpretation, that's something lawyers do to get the guilty off the hook. The Bible is translated. If one interprets the Bible, it is now man's word, not God's.

Really, God's language is English? Kinda like how all aliens speak English in the movies, huh?

Because I thought most of the Bible was originally written in Hebrew. Which means that Man had to translate it, and Man is prone to error. Are you saying that translation is an exact science, and does not involve interpretation? Even today, translators do not agree on some of the passages.

God's language cannot be written with ink and paper for humans to fully comprehend. Haven't you seen Dogma? Our head would explode if we heard the true word of God.

So it follows that the Bible is also the work of Man. It was inspired by God, and the teachings of Jesus, but it was still written down by Man, in Man's language. Whenever you go from God's language to that of Man, you're gonna lose something in the translation.

wolf · 12-11-2002, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
Oooh OOH OOH!! (Mr. Kotter, Mr Kott-tair!!) Can I be ammo monitor? I won't drink (*much*) and I'm already trained to do searches. It's part of my job.

Originally posted by MaggieL

Oh,. my. What an interesting thought. :-)

Don't forget ... another part of my job is tying people down. I get paid to do it AND it's legal.

wolf · 12-11-2002, 01:50 AM

I look in wonderment at exactly how far off topic this thread has wandered.

Pretty amazing really.

Oh wait.

Perhaps not.

When exposed to matter as dense as a black hole, time, space, and light bend ... so I guess it's the same with topics too, eh?

12-10-2002, 11:24 PM	#318
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm not sure, but I think Maggie meant "youth outreach" in a Catholic Church kind of way, rather than a "get them into the LP when they're young and they'll vote LP as adults" kind of way. That's how I read it, anyway. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-10-2002, 11:51 PM	#321
Cairo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 91	Sycamore, Golly Gee Whiz....Why pretend like you know me, when clearly...ya don't! If you want to whine and stomp on sour grapes, take your ball and don't play anymore...but spare me the dramatics, mmmK? Here's where you have strayed from the Bible and the word of God...the Bible is NOT up for interpretation, that's something lawyers do to get the guilty off the hook. The Bible is translated. If one interprets the Bible, it is now man's word, not God's. In my opinion, people who interpret the Bible or interpret the laws have problems translating the true meaning of it, whether that is intentional is a case by case answer. The Bible is a book of History,Faith, and Instruction all together, you can not separate one from the others. It's all or nothing... History: Nations who turned against God were wiped out. Noah built an ark and survived the flood. Jesus lived and preached and was crucified. God spoke to Moses. Sodom and Gomorrah rained brimstone and fire, etc...etc. Faith: Belief and trust in.(If you don't believe in the Historical happenings, you don't have faith.) Instruction: Follow His Statutes, and do them. Here's the link, thanks for the heads-up. http://www.lcweb.loc.gov/exhibits/scrolls/toc.html And the ark. http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark-05.htm And Sodom and Gomorrah. http://www.wyattmuseum.com/cities-of-the-plains-02.htm Here is the link to the attempt to rewrite the history of the Alamo. I live in San Antonio, and am highly offended and appalled, this doesn't include the words of the Houston councilman, but he was all over my T.V. every night for a week talking proudly of deception and lies! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53968,00.html __________________ ______________________________ The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the World that he didn't exist. Keyser Soze

12-11-2002, 12:19 AM	#322
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	Radar congrats on the marriage __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

12-11-2002, 12:25 AM	#326
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	<h3>Cairo</h3> nice post, links help a lot. The extra time spent in finding and inserting them into the post is worth having people know WTF yer talking about (even if they dont agree). Last edited by slang; 12-11-2002 at 12:30 AM.

12-11-2002, 01:50 AM	#330
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I look in wonderment at exactly how far off topic this thread has wandered. Pretty amazing really. Oh wait. Perhaps not. When exposed to matter as dense as a black hole, time, space, and light bend ... so I guess it's the same with topics too, eh? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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