Confession Time

[DanaC]

Well said, Jim.

[jimhelm]

Great post Dana.

BigV, put that one in your hall of fame.

[jimhelm]

Oh, lol,.....I swear I was writing my post before I saw yours Dana....


But if someone says 'get a room' ....i'm buying!

[Nirvana]

I thought brill was fitting in fine but I don't agree that anyone's comments to or about her should have received the amount of venom she included. No one knows anyone on the internet. These are not people here she knows or should care about enough to say fuck you to... JMO

[DanaC]

I think Jim covered that with the 'standing up to a crowd' comment.

No one response was bad enough to warrant venom. But taken as a package I can see how Brill mayhave felt very much under attack. Clearly her response to being attacked is to give back more than she was hit with. Fair enough.


[eta] Trouble is. We are each seeing our individual responses and Brill's individual responses to us. From her perspective we're a group. We're a mass of not-yet-knowns.

[infinite monkey]

And once again, it's the big meanie weanies faults. So "she got mad" but that's OK.

No one else is to get mad back and respond?

How's this: one of your meanie weanies has had enough of finger pointing and the pretense of 'so fair and caring' which is actually meanness personified, not to mention how it belies the talk of friendship and love.

How's this?: I cry EVERY SINGLE DAY. And yet, I come to the Cellar for laughs, and whatever it is I'm going through comes through, because some of you so called FAIR people can be anything but fair, so I respond...but I'm a big meanie weanie because I call something as I see it?

I remember finding out how a certain beloved dwellar has some mental issues. AFTER the fact, I heard: well gee, I wish I'd been nicer.

So WHERE do you get who is to be treated with kid gloves and who gets to be pointed out as a meanie weanie by the saints.

I come to the cellar because I'm lonely. I'm leaving because my 'friends' here make me feel more alone and isolated than my actual life.

There, how's that? Perfect for you, i"M sure. YOu can be rid of me AND tell me to quit being a martyr.

I'm so tired of trying to fit in, myself. Maybe BD or LR, whoever it is, had the right idea.

They both accomplished the same goal.

Meek and innocent and downtrodden my ass.

[DanaC]

Whatever Infinite Monkey.

You're the one who made this about you. You're the one staking out sides (her or you). Imade a considered post putting forward my own take on the situation. I didn't attack you or accuse you of anything.

What i got in response was this:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

And once again, it's the big meanie weanies faults. So "she got mad" but that's OK.

No one else is to get mad back and respond?

How's this: one of your meanie weanies has had enough of finger pointing and the pretense of 'so fair and caring' which is actually meanness personified, not to mention how it belies the talk of friendship and love.

How's this?: I cry EVERY SINGLE DAY. And yet, I come to the Cellar for laughs, and whatever it is I'm going through comes through, because some of you so called FAIR people can be anything but fair, so I respond...but I'm a big meanie weanie because I call something as I see it?

I remember finding out how a certain beloved dwellar has some mental issues. AFTER the fact, I heard: well gee, I wish I'd been nicer.

So WHERE do you get who is to be treated with kid gloves and who gets to be pointed out as a meanie weanie by the saints.

I come to the cellar because I'm lonely. I'm leaving because my 'friends' here make me feel more alone and isolated than my actual life.

There, how's that? Perfect for you, i"M sure. YOu can be rid of me AND tell me to quit being a martyr.

I'm so tired of trying to fit in, myself. Maybe BD or LR, whoever it is, had the right idea.

They both accomplished the same goal.

Meek and innocent and downtrodden my ass.

So, basically, anytime I don't simply take your word for it that the girl is bad news. Or try to see what it might be like for a newcomer to our fold, I am apparently betraying you.

But here's the thing. What I said about her reacting to us as a group? Is exactly what you do. From time to time a handful of people get under your skin and then you explode at the entire collective. I am just considering the possibility that this is exactly what BD has just done.

I haven't said she is genuine. I haven't said she isn't. What I've done is consider the possibility that she is, and if so what her experience of us may have been.

Every time a newcomer arrives and there's a little trouble, I consider these things. And every time I do, you take it personally and start flinging shit at me.

Had. Enough.

[Nirvana]

I don't feel as if I was part of the group of "thought of attackers" My comments were totally benign. If it makes her feel better I will say " stay, you will be assimilated,"

[DanaC]

Read my post again Infi. I never said anyone was a meanie.

But hey. Way to personalise the fuck out of everything.

[infinite monkey]

Oh, you're far too kind. Fucking PERSONALIZE? WTF do you think your goddam BD was doing? Fuck that!

Thanks Dana. Thanks so fucking much.

[DanaC]

Right. That's it. I am done with the histrionics.

You are impossible to interact with Infi.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Right. That's it. I am done with the histrionics.

You are impossible to interact with Infi.

And you're a hypocrite. And meaner than you'll ever believe.

Now go find some red carpet for your less histrionic new friend.

[Nirvana]

I don't want you to feel like you have to fit in IM you are perfect as you are

It makes my day to read your posts...

[jimhelm]

So, me trying to be nice, and more considerate than I have been is a bad thing?

How does it belie talk of love and friendship? I missed that leap... I do love you and think of you as my friend, shaw. What did I say that contradicts that? Because I made a joke list, I've been lying about caring about you?

What can I do to prove my affection for you?

[jimhelm]

It's a lot easier being a hammer, btw.