Camping

[xoxoxoBruce]

Don't forget the trail-mix...

[captainhook455]

An 8lb air mattress is a little heavy better to buy a roll up foam mattress. Go to Walmart and buy the container of bungee cords for strapping sleeping pad, tent and sleeping bag to the pack.

[bbro]

@glatt - I'm like you. I hate buying something that is not good quality. I cheaped out on the tent and I'm pretty sure it already has holes. I'll look into them, but since it is one trip, I'm leaning towards muscling it or rent. I am also asking the one friend I have that may have a bigger pack I can borrow. Then, I'll figure out the rest as I go.

@BigV - it is only supposed to be for car camping, but to offset the cost, I'm taking the smaller/lighter air pad back to the store. Also, I was kind of joking

@Bruce - already done - http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=1013200&postcount=316

[glatt]

Originally Posted by bbro

@glatt - I'm like you. I hate buying something that is not good quality. I cheaped out on the tent and I'm pretty sure it already has holes.

The funny thing is that the more money you spend on a tent, the lighter it will be and the easier it will be to get holes because the fabric will be thinner and lighter.

[bbro]

Originally Posted by glatt

The funny thing is that the more money you spend on a tent, the lighter it will be and the easier it will be to get holes because the fabric will be thinner and lighter.

But, I wonder if that's just for backpacking tents? Regular camping tents don't usually worry about weight since you aren't hauling for a while.

Good News everyone! My one friend has a pack big enough for 3+ days AND is willing to let me borrow it! I'm excited. I'm going to try to sleep in the hammock this weekend, but it might just be too cold for that by then. I'll need to carry in the tent and I have a cheapo sleeping pad I always forget about that I can use. The rest of it should fit in the pack!!

[captainhook455]

It is time to pack that pack and hike around the neighborhood to see what needs to be left behind. A not so easy exercise is to put a 5 gallon jug of water in the pack and hike with that.

At Philmont I took a page from the Bible and packed the food which got lighter everyday. My partners pack never got lighter.

[bbro]

Quick update - the air mattress is wonderful. First morning in the woods that I'm not in pain. Might need a bigger tent though. This bad mamma jamma takes up lots of room.

Camp pillow is working out, too, but mostly as a prop up for the sheet I'm using on top of it.

I didn't use my sleeping bag last night cause I was hot. Now, I'm cold. Gonna use it tonight.

Dumb question - if the outside of tent gets wet, are you supposed to feel the wet on the inner walls?

Sent from my tent

[glatt]

Sent from your tent!

Awesome that you slept well.


You ask a simple question, but the answer is more complicated. Nobody wants the inner walls of their tent to get wet, but it sometimes happens.

You get two kinds of wet in a tent. Rain getting in and condensation. In your situation last night it was probably the rain. Your rainfly, if I recall correctly, doesn't cover your entire tent. The parts of your tent that are exposed will get wet in the rain, and if the rain is long enough, the water soaks into the fabric wicks its way into the inside and beads up. A good design of a tent will have a rainfly that covers the entire tent, but is some distance away from the tent, so when the water soaks into the rainfly and beads up on the underside, it doesn't touch the inner tent to get it wet.

Condensation is usually a bigger problem. It's almost always warmer and more humid inside a tent than outside the tent. It's most pronounced in cooler weather, but can happen on a hot summer night too. Moisture from your breath collects on the inside of the tent and condenses there where it meets the slightly cooler temperature from the outside.

The ideal way to avoid condensation is to have lots of ventilation. Not ideal on a cold night. Again, the best tents for fighting moisture have a nice big rainfly that stands off the tent by several inches. The fly will get wet from rain or condensation, but the inner tent stays dry. Helps if the inner tent has a lot of screening.

I have a Slumberjack Trail 3 that is rellly good at keeping me dry in rain and condensation situations. But it's a heavy 8 pounds. Not too expensive at around $110.

[glatt]

A good design of a tent will have a rainfly that covers the entire tent, but is some distance away from the tent, so when the water soaks into the rainfly and beads up on the underside, it doesn't touch the inner tent to get it wet.

Condensation is usually a bigger problem. It's almost always warmer and more humid inside a tent than outside the tent. It's most pronounced in cooler weather, but can happen on a hot summer night too. Moisture from your breath collects on the inside of the tent and condenses there where it meets the slightly cooler temperature from the outside.

The ideal way to avoid condensation is to have lots of ventilation. Again, the best tents for fighting moisture have a nice big rainfly that stands off the tent by several inches. The fly will get wet from rain or condensation, but the inner tent stays dry. Helps if the inner tent has a lot of screening for ventilation.

I have a Slumberjack Trail 3 that is really good at keeping me dry in rain and condensation situations. But it's a heavy 8 pounds. Not too expensive at around $110.

REI probably doesn't sell it. Not expensive enough for them.

[sexobon]

Pffft, why spend $110 for a Slumberjack Trail 3 when for less than a bitcoin you can get one of these single wall, waterproof/windproof, vapor permeable tents⸮

[bbro]

Thanks for the info. I'll respond longer when I'm out of the woods. Debating leaving early again. Bugs are bad. Either tent or bug net are my only options. I don't want to eat dinner in a bug net

[bbro]

So, the wet was not condensation. I actually leave a bit of the doors open (there's screens for venting) even when it's cold or it gets too hot and stuffy in the tent. This wet was more from the water hitting the ground and splashing up, I guess. The rainfly on the tent goes a bit over the front and back, but not as far over the sides. It's not flush with the sides, it just doesn't stick out as far. I guess that's why the walls there aren't protected as well?

Well, good to know, anyways. I thought it was because I bought a cheap tent or something. 8 pounds is only 1 pound more than what I have now. I think I can handle that

I have some pictures, but I'm in the woods in the mountains (in an Airbnb) trying to digest my dinner. I feel like a python.

I did end up leaving. It was a good thing, I got more than double the bug bites while packing up. I'm up to 21. Including one on my foot arch. Unbelievable. I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel my next camping trip at a lake and just do day trips instead. It'll waste some gas, but I won't be miserable, so it's a win, I think. Plus, I'll save 40 bucks.......and use it for the gas.

[xoxoxoBruce]

You've attacked this like it's mission from your commanding officer. STOP!
It's supposed to be a fun weekend, not a suicide mission to win some war.
The original point was to camp so you could see more territory, camping was the method, not the goal.

[bbro]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You've attacked this like it's mission from your commanding officer. STOP!
It's supposed to be a fun weekend, not a suicide mission to win some war.
The original point was to camp so you could see more territory, camping was the method, not the goal.

?? I'm not sure what you're trying to say?

[sexobon]

But, but, if she does a hitch in the military, she'll get one of those great tents like in the video above and see lots of new territory!