Al Franken...is this for real?

[Undertoad]

We have watched UG fail to consume any information that contradicts his thinking many times.

The mind is not just shut, it's hot-riveted shut and sealed by welders.

[classicman]

Like a little kid - it keeps getting worse every time he challenges his parents decision.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by classicman

Like a little kid - it keeps getting worse every time he challenges his parents decision.

And yet it still goes on....

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Franken the Comedian, in the Senate? Actually it is quite fitting.

Hahaha....

Yes a comedian in the Senate but that makes the assumption that they aren't already there...

[TheMercenary]

Franken the Comedian, in the Senate? Actually it is quite fitting.

[Happy Monkey]

This guy may be crazier than Coleman.

Tedisco asks to be declared winner

Murphy still holds lead

By Jamie Larson


COLUMBIA COUNTY — 20th Congressional District candidate Republican Jim Tedisco submitted a petition to the Dutchess County Supreme Court Thursday asking the judge to declare him the winner of the extremely close special election race, despite the numbers currently being in favor of his opponent, Democrat Scott Murphy.


... while Tedisco’s office has said the challenges are roughly evenly split between the two camps, Columbia County lawyers for Murphy have only challenged 22 ballots, while Tedisco’s have challenged 258.

[classicman]

Doesn't someone have to tell him that its over? Way over? The clock is at zero. Time has run out. You lost, He won.....

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

Doesn't someone have to tell him that its over? Way over? The clock is at zero. Time has run out. You lost, He won.....

yea, good luck with that. It's really funny, because after a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, it wasn't important enough to keep counting or challenging, THAT was just liberals whining because they lost (even though they really didn't), but with a Senate race, it must go on and on and be challenged to the Supreme Court of the United States.

I don't EVER want to hear conservatives say liberals are whining when they contest a race again in the future.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

yea, good luck with that. It's really funny, because after a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, it wasn't important enough to keep counting or challenging,

It was important for the count to stop sometime so that we would have a POTUS. The US won't survive without one. Minnesota can survive really well without a Senator for a while.

And this event is the proof. You should pause and consider what would happen if a single state held up the Presidency for 6 months, 3 of which would be during the term of office.

THAT was just liberals whining because they lost (even though they really didn't),

Recounts after the event by major media outlets say you are wrong.

I don't EVER want to hear conservatives say liberals are whining when they contest a race again in the future.

From where I sit in the middle, liberals are absolutely superior whiners.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It was important for the count to stop sometime so that we would have a POTUS. The US won't survive without one. Minnesota can survive really well without a Senator for a while.

And this event is the proof. You should pause and consider what would happen if a single state held up the Presidency for 6 months, 3 of which would be during the term of office.

I disagree, and I still say it was wrong. The president is a much more important position that affects the entire country, and even the world. Clinton could have continued performing the duties of president until the issue was resolved.

Recounts after the event by major media outlets say you are wrong.

I don't think so.

From where I sit in the middle, liberals are absolutely superior whiners.

UT, from what I can tell, you are nowhere near the middle. :p

And republicans are whining about everything Obama does, and holding up everything they can, even though the majority of Americans want them to step aside and let Obama do what he needs to do in order to fix all the shit they broke when they were in power.

[Undertoad]

I don't think so.

The relevant Wikipedia article:

The results of the study showed that had the limited county by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush would still have been the winner of the election.

UT, from what I can tell, you are nowhere near the middle.

Well, live and learn, because this is how it works:

If you're on the left, the middle looks like the right. If you're on the right, the middle looks like the left.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

You should pause and consider what would happen if a single state held up the Presidency for 6 months, ...

Good. Sometimes it takes that much pain to finally get top management off their asses. Or to get people to admit a problem really exists.

Problem is not how long it took to fix the problem. The problem is that the problem still exists. Still exists (even worse in other places) because the powers that be are so dumb (or purchased). If you think MN was bad, some still use Diebold voting machines. That should be noted in your every post. MN is only a warning of what may happen and would be necessary in a future presidential election.

Foolish is to blame time necessary to create a cure. That blame is called curing symptoms. If this voting problem is not fixed, then yes, it might be necessary to not have a president for many months only because .... 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Bad top management needs things this bad before even admitting a problem exists. A problem so severe that Diebold voting machines, for example, should be banned from all future elections starting tomorrow.

Notice what it took to finally get Rick Wagoner out of office. Incompetence is not limited to auto executives. The problem is not how long it took to fix symptoms. The problem is the problem itself. Where is a solution defined, or even outlined, in your post? Instead you would subvert the many month process required to fix what bad management created?

MN is simply a canary in the coalmine. The following pain must be suffered because of that problem. Was it painful enough? Where are the bills calling for banning of all Diebold voting machines? Apparently it was not painful enough.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Jill, I've sampled Lying Liars. Looked like trash to me, and I don't buy trash. Has he sold books? Some people will fall for anything, won't they? He has sold none to me, and isn't likely to. Al Franken ain't no Russell Kirk. For that matter, I ain't much of a fan of SNL. I didn't always hate it all my life, but SNL seems a lot like TV's Harvard Lampoon magazine: its target demographic is college undergrads around age twenty. Around age twenty was thirty years ago, and that's a fair span of time.

[TheMercenary]

Lying Liars was complete trash. The writings of a raving wacko.

[classicman]

Is that what Michelle thinks too? :hee hee hee:

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Is that what Michelle thinks too? :hee hee hee:

No, I have it on my shelf. I'll send it to you if you want it.