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Old 10-22-2009, 12:44 AM   #1
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So what next? Take action? Do nothing?
Which is what a political agenda says. We cannot do anything so we should give up. What defines a patriotic American? He innovates. Solutions to global warming mean more wealth, more jobs, better products, less waste, healthier people - all things that 'worshipers of the status quo' fear when it requires science, the unexpected, and change. Change - what the most conservative extremists fear.

You buy and burn ten gallons of gasoline. How many gallons do any productive work? Something more than only 1 gallon. How do we solve global warming? Burn all the anti-innovators at the stake?

Simply create cars that use three out of every ten gallons productively. But that goes against a political agenda that says, "Drill, Drill, Drill". Or says, "Consume and waste more to create more jobs."

The steam engine was replaced by the diesel electric locomotive in the 1930s. What is that diesel electric engine called? A hybrid. Why did it take 70 years (and $100 million dollars from Clinton) to finally get the anti-innovative (anti-Americans) to design one? The 'we fear to innovate' enemies of America also must fear global warming. Its solutions require innovation. Solutions that contradict their political agenda of 'maintaining the status quo'.

How many inches of insulation in your attic? Just inspected another home. Two inches. Many spots (including the heat ducts) had zero inches. Why? Because energy is so inexpensive. Because change or innovation is just too hard.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:58 AM   #2
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It would be great if people started to take matters into their own hands: installed solar panels, bought hybrids, etc. Many of these energy conserving steps also conserve money in either the short or long run. I don't know where you live, TW, but out here nears the 4-Corners power plant, energy costs are pretty high. I guess all that electricity goes to LA with none left over for us locals. Meanwhile, I'm keeping my thermostat at 60 degrees and filling in the chinks around my windows.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:32 PM   #3
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SamIam, don't fill in your chinks with rice, they'll be leaking again an hour later.

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Old 10-20-2009, 04:53 PM   #4
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:54 PM   #5
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Well Sam was sad with the level of polarization, so it occurred to me that we can find agreement. Here we are all in agreement. Step 1.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:26 PM   #6
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Well Sam was sad with the level of polarization, so it occurred to me that we can find agreement. Here we are all in agreement. Step 1.
YAY! Its a start. Its something.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:03 AM   #7
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Quick! Group hug!!! Now rush to Copenhagen before it wears off!
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:37 AM   #8
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Copenhagen? Where they do all that fornicating?
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:16 AM   #9
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Copenhagen? Where they do all that fornicating?
I dont think the intent of the upcoming UN Conference on Climate Change is to screw the people.

But I suspect we wont have unanimous agreement on that.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:19 AM   #10
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what an ironic coincidence ...
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:19 PM   #11
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It is rather warm out today.
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:26 PM   #12
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It is rather warm out today.
Warmer than average for the date - head for high ground!
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:41 PM   #13
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Warmer than average for the date - head for high ground!
What you offer to trade for a place of safety is your own business.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:27 PM   #14
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yeh - thats the answer.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:01 PM   #15
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http://people-press.org/report/556/global-warming

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There has been a sharp decline over the past year in the percentage of Americans who say there is solid evidence that global temperatures are rising. And fewer also see global warming as a very serious problem – 35% say that today, down from 44% in April 2008.
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