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Old 12-09-2011, 04:07 AM   #376
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For example, if Iran can electronically gain control of the US stealth drones
and bring them to ground without extensive damage,
it would be a remarkable achievement by Iran and setback for the US.
If we are to avoid war with these assholes, we need to remember that what seems like sociopathic bravado and lying is actually a cultural difference.

Iran: "We shot down your drone."
US: "What drone?"
Iran: "The one we shot down."
US: "We have no evidence of a drone being shot down... we did lose one. That happens from time to time, they are flown by people 4000 miles away."
Iran: "Well we shot it down."
US: "Can we see it?"
Iran: "Here it is."
US: "But... that's obviously not shot down, there's no damage to it. If a drone got hit by any proper anti-aircraft gun there would be practically nothing left of it!"
Iran: "I didn't say we shot it down. We have ways."

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:25 PM   #377
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Pretty interesting read.

Downed US drone: How Iran caught the 'beast'

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...ught-the-beast
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:35 PM   #378
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Pretty interesting read.

Downed US drone: How Iran caught the 'beast'
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A senior US military source "with intimate knowledge of the Sentinel drone" was paraphrased by Fox News days ago as saying that the lost craft was "presumed to be intact since it is programmed to fly level and find a place to land, rather than crashing."
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:52 PM   #379
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If we are to avoid war with these assholes, we need to remember that what seems like sociopathic bravado and lying is actually a cultural difference.
Based on more information in Merc's link above, UT's dialog needs to be extended

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Iran: "We shot down your drone."
US: "What drone?"
Iran: "The one we shot down."
US: "We have no evidence of a drone being shot down... we did lose one. That happens from time to time, they are flown by people 4000 miles away."
Iran: "Well we shot it down."
US: "Can we see it?"
Iran: "Here it is."
US: "But... that's obviously not shot down, there's no damage to it. If a drone got hit by any proper anti-aircraft gun there would be practically nothing left of it!"
Iran: "I didn't say we shot it down. We have ways."

US: "Of course it's not damaged. We programmed it to fly level and find a flat place to land"

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:02 PM   #380
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Don't miss the bit at the end

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But there are also limits, as evidenced by the launch of Iran's first Omid (Hope) satellite in 2009. While that event put Iran into an elite scientific club of just nine nations, the innards of the satellite appeared to be rudimentary.

State TV showed footage at the time of the satellite being assembled into a square silver box, its guts similar to those of a 1950s transistor radio, with D-size batteries and wires held in place with black electrical tape.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:13 PM   #381
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I think they had help from the Russians. Either the Chinese or the Russians would pay a pretty penny to have Iran sell it to them.
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:13 PM   #382
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Well, for the good for everyone, we are lucky it was unmanned drone and not a manned aircraft. If so, we would probably be on the brink of war right now...
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Old 12-09-2011, 05:25 PM   #383
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After Action Review comment: Damn why didn't we put a self destruct thingy on those drones...you mean that if they loose contact with the operator they just fly level and land themselves????
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:11 PM   #384
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After Action Review comment: Damn why didn't we put a self destruct thingy on those drones...you mean that if they loose contact with the operator they just fly level and land themselves????
I was thinking that too but I'm guessing they don't want to put a self-destruct device on a $6 million drone in case they lose contact in airspace where the drone could easily be recovered.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:49 PM   #385
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Voice of America

12/12/11

US Asks Iran to Return Lost Drone

Based on more information in the link above, UT's dialog needs to be extended yet again.

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Iran: "We shot down your drone."
US: "What drone?"
Iran: "The one we shot down."
US: "We have no evidence of a drone being shot down... we did lose one. That happens from time to time, they are flown by people 4000 miles away."
Iran: "Well we shot it down."
US: "Can we see it?"
Iran: "Here it is."
US: "But... that's obviously not shot down, there's no damage to it. If a drone got hit by any proper anti-aircraft gun there would be practically nothing left of it!"
Iran: "I didn't say we shot it down. We have ways."
US: "Of course it's not damaged. We programmed it to fly level and find a flat place to land"
Iran: "Here's a nice picture for you"

US: "Please give it back. Pretty please... Pretty please, with sugar on it."
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:01 AM   #386
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They should have dropped a freaking cruise missile on it when they had a chance.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:47 PM   #387
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Why destroy it when we've laced it with malware for them to download that will hibernate in their systems until we're ready for activation. Operation Trojan Drone is proceeding as planned, we just let them think they won a prize 'cause we knew they'd be suspicious of a gift. Now, they're too full of themselves to ever believe that we let them have it. Asking for it back was not only part of the ruse, it indemnifies us from claims of subsequent damage to their property. We expended one drone to "stray" over their border and land completely intact, able to deliver its virtual payload, at a reasonable cost to the taxpayers as these things go.

That said, who'd like to buy some beachfront property in Nevada for when California falls into the ocean?
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:01 PM   #388
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Why destroy it when we've laced it with malware for them to download that will hibernate in their systems until we're ready for activation. <snip>
Iran: "We shot down your drone."
US: "What drone?"
Iran: "The one we shot down."
US: "We have no evidence of a drone being shot down... we did lose one. That happens from time to time, they are flown by people 4000 miles away."
Iran: "Well we shot it down."
US: "Can we see it?"
Iran: "Here it is."
US: "But... that's obviously not shot down, there's no damage to it. If a drone got hit by any proper anti-aircraft gun there would be practically nothing left of it!"
Iran: "I didn't say we shot it down. We have ways."
US: "Of course it's not damaged. We programmed it to fly level and find a flat place to land"
Iran: "Here's a nice picture for you"
US: "Please give it back. Pretty please... Pretty please, with sugar on it."

Iran: Hey, be careful with that thing. There's this Dwellar guy saying that...
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:48 PM   #389
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Iran: "We shot down your drone."
US: "What drone?"
Iran: "The one we shot down."
US: "We have no evidence of a drone being shot down... we did lose one. That happens from time to time, they are flown by people 4000 miles away."
Iran: "Well we shot it down."
US: "Can we see it?"
Iran: "Here it is."
US: "But... that's obviously not shot down, there's no damage to it. If a drone got hit by any proper anti-aircraft gun there would be practically nothing left of it!"
Iran: "I didn't say we shot it down. We have ways."
US: "Of course it's not damaged. We programmed it to fly level and find a flat place to land"
Iran: "Here's a nice picture for you"
US: "Please give it back. Pretty please... Pretty please, with sugar on it."
Iran: "Before we even consider your request, you must say you're sorry. ... But our final decision will be no, we're keeping it."
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #390
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“The least expectation from us is an apology by the U.S. president,” Boroujerdi said. He added that the United States also must compensate Iran for the expenses it has incurred in retrieving the drone. “We have spent a lot of energy on this,” he said.
snickered at this part.
Yeh, we got it and its costing us money to get all the info out of it so we want you to pay for that too.
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