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Old 06-30-2010, 05:41 PM   #1
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Redux, you can try to twist it around as much as you like, but it's just more of the same shit you do in political debate, and it's the reason why people get frustrated with you.

It comes down to something like what clodfobble said. If you acted like you would if you were really interacting with a group of friends, you'd be fine. You clearly have no interest in doing that.

If you can't tell when I'm being funny, and just tugging on your chain (when i said that you should admit that you're an argumentative little bitch I was doing this) and when I'm seriously telling you about yourself (I'm doing this now) then you're bound have issues here.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to help you get this. You've been told before by other people, and I have the sense that you are resistant to introspection. You're much more likely to blame me for starting this and picking on you, and then to justify your responses by saying that you're just giving what you get. The point is that ....well, the point is this whole thread....

This thread is admittedly disruptive, as I said in the original post, but your claim that I'm the biggest disruption to the cellar in general is laughable. Either you get the fucking message here, or you don't. Griping at me, and how mean spirited I am and all that shit is just deflection and obfuscation, and it doesn't change the fact that you are a BIG part of the problem.

It seems to me at this point that you intend to continue blithely as you've been doing. I think that sucks.
Some like what I contribute and some dont....and thats fine with me.

You cant please all of the people, all of the time...particularly those with a pre-determined mindset.

As to the most mean-spirited, disruptive influence, here....I stand by what I said.

A little introspective on your own might do you some good as well.
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:27 PM   #2
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... As to the most mean-spirited, disruptive influence, here....I stand in what I said. ...
Fixed it for ya.
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:32 AM   #3
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If you acted like you would if you were really interacting with a group of friends, you'd be fine. You clearly have no interest in doing that.
You're really saying he should act like you do with friends. I've no reason to believe Redux, and tw, and UG, don't act the same way in real life, as they do on the board.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:22 AM   #4
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You're really saying he should act like you do with friends. I've no reason to believe Redux, and tw, and UG, don't act the same way in real life, as they do on the board.
Yet I've heard over and over what a great guy merc is in real life (real life as it pertains to extended relationships beyond the cellar, I guess...other sorts of contributions of which I do not know.) Can we assume he is NOT like he is on the boards?

I don't seem to have a problem IRL. Maybe it's seeing my face when I joke or get fired up, because IRL people seem to like me, actually want me around. *shrug*
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:55 AM   #5
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Merc and Classic and Redux have all been very nice to me in PM's and other ways. Yet, they seem to have some male testosterone thing going when it comes down to one another. People are many faceted. I don't think we can make sweeping generalizations about what a person is like in real life based on a message board.

PS Bruce is a sweetie pie no matter what.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:06 PM   #6
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Merc and Classic and Redux have all been very nice to me in PM's and other ways. Yet, they seem to have some male testosterone thing going when it comes down to one another. People are many faceted. I don't think we can make sweeping generalizations about what a person is like in real life based on a message board.

PS Bruce is a sweetie pie no matter what.
Redux has been very kind to me in PMs, as well. I can only judge people by how they treat me, and I will refrain from my other opinions.

I am also very forgiving (my ex is my best friend, ffs.) It's the repeated behavior that shuts me down. "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me 34 times, shame on me." Even I have a point where I am just done.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:00 PM   #7
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Yet I've heard over and over what a great guy merc is in real life (real life as it pertains to extended relationships beyond the cellar, I guess...other sorts of contributions of which I do not know.) Can we assume he is NOT like he is on the boards?

I don't seem to have a problem IRL. Maybe it's seeing my face when I joke or get fired up, because IRL people seem to like me, actually want me around. *shrug*
I agree. For me, a cheeky grin goes along way.
umm on this side of the screen anyway.
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:16 PM   #8
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You're really saying he should act like you do with friends. I've no reason to believe Redux, and tw, and UG, don't act the same way in real life, as they do on the board.
This is why I think Bruce is smart.

I've no reason to believe that way either.

Personally -- in a couple of senses -- I figure both tw and Redux are single.
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:40 PM   #9
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I like a good flame war as much as the next guy. But when it turns into name calling and bullshit I go play some where else. So POO POO on all y'all.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:06 PM   #10
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Republicans support banks, not taxpayers [youtube video]
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and George Bush hates black people. I think you've got all the bases covered now Kanye.
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That's some respectful discussion.
Reader thinks, "Well, hell. Now this thread is ruined. I don't even care what the original point was. NOW all I see is somebody acting like a crybaby bitch with no sense of humor."
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:11 PM   #11
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Bullshit, Flint. That is exactly the sort of snark that others are held accountable for. It didn't seem funny to Spexx because of the history of snark crap regarding such issues.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:15 PM   #12
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Held accountable in what way Shaw?
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:17 PM   #13
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Bullshit, Flint.
What do you mean Bullshit? I'm telling you what my reaction was when I read those posts.

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That is exactly the sort of snark that others are held accountable for.
When you say "others are held accountable" it shows where your thinking goes off track on this issue. It doesn't matter "who" you are. There are no special "cool kid" clubs. Either you are funny or you are not. This is just like in real life: there are intangible things which make something socially awkward, and knowing what these things are allows you to navigate your way through a social interaction.

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It didn't seem funny to Spexx because of the history of snark crap regarding such issues.
We can't go around worrying about what people's reactions will be. What I was pointing out was that someone consciously decided to move the thread from being funny and lighthearted into their personal "my crybaby feelings are hurt" soapbox, and THAT is a party foul.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:30 PM   #14
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Merc can be a little rough on the boards, but he's always been kind and supportive in PMs. He helped me move once, and he donated that kidney that one time. He's a good guy when you get to know him.

Classic sometime has a hard time not flinging the poo, but he's also been great with the PMs, and that time we went on vacation together is something I'll always cherish. Remember the para-sailing?

UG is a nut, the old lug. You can't take him seriously on the boards. He's really a good guy. He sharpens all my knives for me. You gotta love that.

Spexvett is on my team, so I love him, plus he set my parents up with all those free bifocals. He's a great guy. I'm not getting any younger, and he's assured me that he'll take care of my reading glasses when I need them.

But Redux. Man, Redux! He's on my team, but he sends me multiple abusive PMs every day and I caught him trying to sell my daughter to the gypsies.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:42 PM   #15
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Merc can be a little rough on the boards, but he's always been kind and supportive in PMs. He helped me move once, and he donated that kidney that one time. He's a good guy when you get to know him.

Classic sometime has a hard time not flinging the poo, but he's also been great with the PMs, and that time we went on vacation together is something I'll always cherish. Remember the para-sailing?

UG is a nut, the old lug. You can't take him seriously on the boards. He's really a good guy. He sharpens all my knives for me. You gotta love that.

Spexvett is on my team, so I love him, plus he set my parents up with all those free bifocals. He's a great guy. I'm not getting any younger, and he's assured me that he'll take care of my reading glasses when I need them.

But Redux. Man, Redux! He's on my team, but he sends me multiple abusive PMs every day and I caught him trying to sell my daughter to the gypsies.
This is really funny, glatt.

I mean, guy helps you move, that can't be taken lightly.
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