08-05-2013, 12:18 PM | #406 |
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The police do have authority in this case, it would appear. It is also plainly obvious that this is a case of excessive use of force. Was it motivated by fear, or inexperience, or hatred, or stupidity or a combination of these and other forces, I don't know. It's clearly a mistake, a tragic and fatal mistake.
In Seattle, we have an uneasy situation with our police force. We're currently operating under a consent decree imposed by the Dept of Justice. There have been similar situations and enough of them to justify an investigation and a finding that our PD requires some changes and some continuing oversight. It's a necessary correction to a bad situation. The recent primary election had the candidates for mayor talking (and talking) and one of the questions had to do with how the selection of the new chief of police would take place, "should you become mayor." The answer I liked best was one where the candidate suggested that he'd hire someone that lives in Seattle. What a great idea. I think such a move would have the beneficial effect of reducing the us/them false dichotomy that is engendered when an officer, or the chief, can go home, "away from those people". Who had the most empathy for the old man in Chicago? The staff at his residence, the people who lived with him, worked with him, saw him day in and day out. Their familiarity gave them the confidence to engage him, "disarm" him, despite the fact that they were ridiculously under armed and under armored compared to the cops. When you don't have knowledge of the people, you have to rely on your ability to use force for protection. And when you have that ability, you'll use it. What a sad goddamn story.
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Do you feel bolstered yet ? Hang in there, you will soon...
NY Times RON NIXON August 5, 2013 T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security Quote:
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Slope meet slippery.
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08-06-2013, 01:53 PM | #409 |
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I don't want that level of protection. No thank you! I don't want my confidence bolstered by having my privacy invaded.
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Well, maybe you have something else that needs to be bolstered ?
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08-07-2013, 08:38 PM | #411 |
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I asked several doctors and nurse-practitioners what effect a taser would have on an implanted defibrillator. They all looked at me like I had three heads, one responding huffily, "I would never put myself in that situation".
As long as the public (living outside the hood) have that, 'it couldn't possibly happen to me' attitude, it will keep happening. Only when they understand the clear and present danger from cops who are trained like para-military, will the public demand better. Of course by then, they'll probably be too scared to demand anything.
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Google search...
Europace. 2007 Jul;9(7):551-6. Epub 2007 May 9. Do electrical stun guns (TASER-X26) affect the functional integrity of implantable pacemakers and defibrillators? Lakkireddy D, Khasnis A, Antenacci J, Ryshcon K, Chung MK, Wallick D, Kowalewski W, Patel D, Mlcochova H, Kondur A, Vacek J, Martin D, Natale A, Tchou P. Quote:
TASER conducted electrical weapons and implanted pacemakers and defibrillators. Vanga SR, Bommana S, Kroll MW, Swerdlow C, Lakkireddy D. Quote:
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You're missing the point.
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Again ? Damn !
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Again? No. Still.
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08-09-2013, 05:46 AM | #416 |
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Seems like this is the proper scope.
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NUISANCE tall grass and tires, in violation of the LAW protecting the neighbors from gaining LAWFUL full use of THEIR property!
Get the story straight, Griff. I like how the search warrant is **so** comprehensive, detailing such accompaniments of a "marijuana grow operation" as business records, jewelry, light ballasts, fertilizer, videotapes, etc. Because, you know, that's all evidence of a crime. Except that the crime, growing marijuana, didn't happen in the first place. The whole pyramid scheme collapses because the foundation is only fear, not real. Nice attempted save to find the violations of the nuisance ordinances... Which was entirely the reason for the complaints in the first place, the neighbors found that property and their view of what it was and what it represented a nuisance. But that would never have justified a SWAT raid, so, they spooled up the be afraid factor. Sad, embarrassing.
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Although the initial concept of tax-deductible contributions is good, reasonable, and valuable,
it is being abused now to extents that are hard for me to believe. Here in PDX, we see commercial building developments being awarded "conservation easements" in the middle of the downtown commercial area. It's crazy... particularly when they tore down an old building to build the new one. One developer achieved it by saying he would add a "roof garden" NY Times By RAY D. MADOFF December 6, 2013 How the Government Gives Quote:
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