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Nirvana · 12-13-2011, 11:59 AM

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Spexxvet · 12-13-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Fox News is also part of the new divisiveness that is destroying the nation.

MMfA figures the best way to combat this is not to fight divisiveness but to amp it up...

I don't know....

Amping up would be to create and distribute their own incorrect, misleading graphics, etc. Do they go beyond correcting Fox's "mistakes"?

infinite monkey · 12-13-2011, 12:03 PM

I think if graphics errors on 'liberal' 24 hr network news were so rampant, they'd have a web page devoted to debunking them, too.

What is a liberal news network? Cnn? I really don't know.

How are they amping? Trying to tell people that it's not TRUE that Dewey won?

Undertoad · 12-13-2011, 12:05 PM

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Amping up would be to create and distribute their own incorrect, misleading graphics, etc.

With a little honest reflection I think you'll find this statement is not true.

Spexxvet · 12-13-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

With a little honest reflection I think you'll find this statement is not true.

I've given it a little honest reflection, and after reconsidering, I find my statement to be true.

I'd have expected you to be more skeptical of fox news, Tony.

Undertoad · 12-13-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I've given it a little honest reflection, and after reconsidering, I find my statement to be true.

That must have been a difficult minute and a half for you.

But OK, from now on, I will follow you, and only you, around the Cellar and point out your mistakes.

Divisive? Or honest behavior from me. Give the question two minutes this time.

Undertoad · 12-13-2011, 12:12 PM

CBS News, operating with a large budget and airing 2.5 hours per week, explained that G. W. Bush was AWOL from his National Guard position via a document so obviously bogus that within hours it was thoroughly debunked.

When it was pointed out that the document was obviously bogus, CBS News hunkered down.

Fox News, airing 168 hours per week (minus reruns), occasionally makes errors in their graphics. MMfA selects the ones that seem damning because they create a narrative that you can enjoy having never watched the channel.

Ya follow?

Undertoad · 12-13-2011, 12:20 PM

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I'd have expected you to be more skeptical of fox news

How do you know I'm not?

Spexxvet · 12-13-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

That must have been a difficult minute and a half for you.

Look at the time stamps. I took at least 2 minutes, and possibly 1 second shy of 4 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

But OK, from now on, I will follow you, and only you, around the Cellar and point out your mistakes.
...

You want me.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

How do you know I'm not?

I don't, but from what you've posted in this thread, you seem to be giving fox the benefit of the doubt, saying that they made a mistake, over and over and over. A skeptic might entertain the idea that they do these types of things on purpose.

infinite monkey · 12-13-2011, 12:31 PM

OK, let me try this tack, though no one listens anyway (hey, I should make up graphics for all my posts.)

Fox news is extremely divisive

AND

Fox News is:

a) incredibly clever
b) incredibly stupid
c) incredibly poor
d) b and c

DO YOU THINK IT ISN'T WITHIN THEIR POWER TO HAVE SOMEONE PROOF AND EDIT THEIR GRAPHICS?

DOES CNN POST INCREDIBLY WRONG GRAPHICS ENOUGH SO IT WARRANTS ENTIRE WEBSITES?

You're pulling our collective leg, right?

infinite monkey · 12-13-2011, 12:47 PM

This was an honest mistake, no way anyone would catch this error through any normal means. What, y'all think Fox is superhuman or sumthin'? Quit picking on them and just nod and smile. (Awww, come on, it's funny.)

glatt · 12-13-2011, 12:53 PM

That pie chart is a perfect example of what UT is talking about.

Some intern took those numbers, which are probably real, and plugged them into a graphics program. Instead of doing a bar graph, which would make sense, they selected the pie chart option. The pie chart took the numbers (probably not as percentages, but as actual whole numbers) and created the pie. then the intern couldn't figure out how to make the % symbol show up so they labeled each slice with the number followed by a % sign. These are journalists, not mathematicians.

NPR ran into a similar math screw up when their journalist didn't know how to read a Murdoch financial report and made a wildly wrong report that they had to retract in shame.

HungLikeJesus · 12-13-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

That pie chart is a perfect example of what UT is talking about.

Some intern took those numbers, which are probably real, and plugged them into a graphics program. Instead of doing a bar graph, which would make sense, they selected the pie chart option. The pie chart took the numbers (probably not as percentages, but as actual whole numbers) and created the pie. then the intern couldn't figure out how to make the % symbol show up so they labeled each slice with the number followed by a % sign. These are journalists, not mathematicians.

NPR ran into a similar math screw up when their journalist didn't know how to read a Murdoch financial report and made a wildly wrong report that they had to retract in shame.

Actually it's not that complicated:

BigV · 12-13-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

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NPR ran into a similar math screw up when their journalist didn't know how to read a Murdoch financial report and made a wildly wrong report that they had to retract in shame.

I remember when this happened, it was very embarrassing. NPR certainly does make mistakes. And they have a weekly segment for retracting errors too. I don't watch a lot of Fox News. But I have *never* seen a retraction from them, certainly nothing amounting to a weekly section for corrections. Does this exist? And if it does, why is it not more prominent?

infinite monkey · 12-13-2011, 12:59 PM

And this happens all the time.

Because they have no one to review anything before it goes on air? EVER? That's why there are so many similarly wrong graphics?

NPR had 'a' screw-up? Does it happen so much that us laypeople have reason to notice? Nope. Us stupid people only deal with the ammo that's staring us right in the face.

Willful ignorance indeed.

Now smile and nod. Because you know, it's funny. All just some silly errors. I don't expect my chef to be able to consistently make a decent cheeseburger either. It's not HIS craft, and I can't, nay, I SHOULDN"T expect him to mostly make decent cheeseburgers.

O.M.G. I'm still digesting the line: These are journalists, not mathematicians. For one: mathematicians? 90 plus 60 plus 680 = 100? Yeah, don't expect they should know that. And journalists? Um, except for the FACT that they're fair and balanced that is NOT what I would call them.

Now I know you're pulling my leg. Youse guys. Quit it. I'm really upset with my brothers right now and I'm easily poked.

12-13-2011, 11:59 AM	#1
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infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	This was an honest mistake, no way anyone would catch this error through any normal means. What, y'all think Fox is superhuman or sumthin'? Quit picking on them and just nod and smile. (Awww, come on, it's funny.) Attached Images

12-13-2011, 12:59 PM	#15
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	And this happens all the time. Because they have no one to review anything before it goes on air? EVER? That's why there are so many similarly wrong graphics? NPR had 'a' screw-up? Does it happen so much that us laypeople have reason to notice? Nope. Us stupid people only deal with the ammo that's staring us right in the face. Willful ignorance indeed. Now smile and nod. Because you know, it's funny. All just some silly errors. I don't expect my chef to be able to consistently make a decent cheeseburger either. It's not HIS craft, and I can't, nay, I SHOULDN"T expect him to mostly make decent cheeseburgers. O.M.G. I'm still digesting the line: These are journalists, not mathematicians. For one: mathematicians? 90 plus 60 plus 680 = 100? Yeah, don't expect they should know that. And journalists? Um, except for the FACT that they're fair and balanced that is NOT what I would call them. Now I know you're pulling my leg. Youse guys. Quit it. I'm really upset with my brothers right now and I'm easily poked. Last edited by infinite monkey; 12-13-2011 at 01:04 PM.

12-13-2011, 12:03 PM	#3
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I think if graphics errors on 'liberal' 24 hr network news were so rampant, they'd have a web page devoted to debunking them, too. What is a liberal news network? Cnn? I really don't know. How are they amping? Trying to tell people that it's not TRUE that Dewey won?

12-13-2011, 12:12 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	CBS News, operating with a large budget and airing 2.5 hours per week, explained that G. W. Bush was AWOL from his National Guard position via a document so obviously bogus that within hours it was thoroughly debunked. When it was pointed out that the document was obviously bogus, CBS News hunkered down. Fox News, airing 168 hours per week (minus reruns), occasionally makes errors in their graphics. MMfA selects the ones that seem damning because they create a narrative that you can enjoy having never watched the channel. Ya follow?

12-13-2011, 12:31 PM	#10
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	OK, let me try this tack, though no one listens anyway (hey, I should make up graphics for all my posts.) Fox news is extremely divisive AND Fox News is: a) incredibly clever b) incredibly stupid c) incredibly poor d) b and c DO YOU THINK IT ISN'T WITHIN THEIR POWER TO HAVE SOMEONE PROOF AND EDIT THEIR GRAPHICS? DOES CNN POST INCREDIBLY WRONG GRAPHICS ENOUGH SO IT WARRANTS ENTIRE WEBSITES? You're pulling our collective leg, right?

12-13-2011, 12:53 PM	#12
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	That pie chart is a perfect example of what UT is talking about. Some intern took those numbers, which are probably real, and plugged them into a graphics program. Instead of doing a bar graph, which would make sense, they selected the pie chart option. The pie chart took the numbers (probably not as percentages, but as actual whole numbers) and created the pie. then the intern couldn't figure out how to make the % symbol show up so they labeled each slice with the number followed by a % sign. These are journalists, not mathematicians. NPR ran into a similar math screw up when their journalist didn't know how to read a Murdoch financial report and made a wildly wrong report that they had to retract in shame.

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