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Old 09-27-2006, 11:18 AM   #1
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You make an interesting point. Though I think I know the difference between smut and art (and I have high respect for both), my art may be another's smut. My smut may be high art to some.

I could say that we could draw the line and say a 19th century nude painting doesn't have people sweating, grunting, saying "give it to me baby...harder, you $#@#$ why don't you @#%$# me in the &*%$ you $#@#$. OHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHH."

But again, I am assuming that those things wouldn't be art to anyone.

Rats, now I'm boggled.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:24 AM   #2
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One time I saw this kid in a public library, breathing really hard and obviously very worked up and excited, looking at...

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...pictures of fires in a firefighting magazine.

True story, and I could not be more creeped out, but what're ya gonna do?
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:37 AM   #3
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Why don't you %$#@!!!!

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why don't you @#%$# me in the you $#@#$.


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...pictures of fires in a firefighting magazine.


I usually use only the neutral emoticon, but you guys cracked me up.

Thanks.

Oh. BTW, Shawnee, what is &*%$ ?
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:52 AM   #4
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Oh. BTW, Shawnee, what is &*%$ ?

wink wink nudge nudge
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:29 AM   #5
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:59 PM   #6
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You couldn't view that kind of material with the library system back home

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.... Misuse of the computer, including customers' laptops using CLP's wireless access, will result in the loss of computer privileges, potential loss of library privileges and possible prosecution. Such misuse includes, but is not limited to, viewing material which is obscene or "harmful to minors"; using the computer for illegal activities; sending spam; hacking into the library computer system or any other computer system; damaging or attempting to damage computer equipment or software; interfering with systems operations, integrity or security; gaining unauthorized access to another person's files; sending harassing messages to other computer users; altering or attempting to alter the library computer's settings; and violating copyright laws and software licensing agreements.
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According to the policy, the reason for this is the CIPA and NICA
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The Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA) and the Neighborhood Children's Internet Protection Act (NCIPA) went into effect April 20, 2001. This law requires public libraries receiving certain federal funds to adopt Internet safety policies that address the safety of minors accessing the Internet in libraries. CIPA requires all computers in a public library to be filtered by July 1, 2004 if that library accepts any federal funds for Internet access or computers used for Internet access.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:04 AM   #7
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Thank you. I knew there was something there - man, it was buried! I personally don't mind the restrictions. I don't want to see that when I am trying to read my email! Let alone the little kids that are walking around! In my head, a membership to the library (which you needed to use the computers) was a privilege, not a right. It could be revoked, I was always respectful and aware of the people around me. I didn't even open the WTF NSFW thread there because the amount of kids at the branch I frequented.

But, that is just me.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:47 AM   #8
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WTF

Yeah, bbro, I'm still conflicted. In the abstract I see pornography as just a concept, a word used to describe particular types of pictures and moving images. But the whole reason I started this thread was because it bothered me.

Which makes me a hypocrite, I suppose. Well, maybe not, because I did not complain to the librarian.

But really, you should see this one branch of our library system on Saturday morning; it's all young Black men either watching porn or listening to gangsta rap. They listen to the latter at such a high volume that, despite the fact they use headphones, the environment is anything but library-like. I miss the old blue-haired woman who says "Shoosh!"
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:45 PM   #9
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But really, you should see this one branch of our library system on Saturday morning; it's all young Black men either watching porn or listening to gangsta rap. They listen to the latter at such a high volume that, despite the fact they use headphones, the environment is anything but library-like. I miss the old blue-haired woman who says "Shoosh!"
I still don't understand why they are just watching porn at a library. Clarify me if you can but I have always been under the impression that porn is used to give an image or work up the imagination for masturbation.
Although the public is allowed access to the library at my college, it is still not allowable to be looking at porn. I didn't feel at all self conscious about using a pic of David and then of a streaker in a powerpoint I did recently, BUT I knew that my audience was an open minded proffessor and that the classmates should be mature enough to understand the meaning and joke i was using without getting offended. But the audience of these public porn surfers, unitended or not, are very likely to be offended. I've seen my share of porn, but I would be shocked and offended if I saw it without my consent, even a glance because images have a huge impact on a person. Also the possible presence of children would make me even more upset. My mother took me and my siblings to the library all the time when I was young (I was reading before kindergarten) and she relied on the library to provide a safe enviroment for her children to be in. Although she didn't leave us to wander on our own, its still possible we could have come across the porn surfers at the computers located in various areas of the library and she would most certainly be offended by that. They give ratings on the back of a movie and they also tell what the content is that caused that rating such as nudity, sexual content or violence. This is so that you know what is in your movie and you can choose not to watch it if it will offend you. The public porn surfers violate this idea.

I miss the "Shoosh"-ers too. They gave me candy.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:53 PM   #10
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Certainly not all libraries have enough money to have separate children's rooms, but most I've been to do. The adult portion of the library is upstairs, and the kid's is downstairs. Teenagers would be using the adult section, but little kids wouldn't. My point is that an adult wouldn't be surfing porn in the kid's section, and kids would rarely be in the adult section.

But I still don't want to see anyone surfing porn in a library.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:17 PM   #11
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Certainly not all libraries have enough money to have separate children's rooms, but most I've been to do. The adult portion of the library is upstairs, and the kid's is downstairs. Teenagers would be using the adult section, but little kids wouldn't. My point is that an adult wouldn't be surfing porn in the kid's section, and kids would rarely be in the adult section.
Not all libraries are this big. The one that I mentioned above with a lot of schoolkids running around was really small. Only one floor. I saw more kids in that library than adults.

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Sorry, I just read the first sentance of your quote and realized that is what you said. My bad......is it friday yet??
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:20 PM   #12
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Evidently, I can look at it at my public library too; albeit when they are open.

I wouldn't say censorship has "nothing" to do with the issue. If my library removed Huck Finn from the shelves because it had the "N" word, wouldn't that be censorship. How is that different than putting filtering software on their internets computers?

Which got me thinking. I think they DO use filtering software; that's why that guy was getting his porn pics through e-mail rather than going to an actual porn site. Pretty smart.
There is a way around that sofware... there are sites set-up, specifically, to get around it.
Does your library carry Jugs, Hustler, & Penthouse? I doubt it.
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Certainly not all libraries have enough money to have separate children's rooms, but most I've been to do. The adult portion of the library is upstairs, and the kid's is downstairs. Teenagers would be using the adult section, but little kids wouldn't. My point is that an adult wouldn't be surfing porn in the kid's section, and kids would rarely be in the adult section.

But I still don't want to see anyone surfing porn in a library.
Which is why their accounts are canceled when they are caught...In a world with BRAINS!

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Old 09-28-2006, 07:25 PM   #13
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I still don't understand why they are just watching porn at a library. Clarify me if you can but I have always been under the impression that porn is used to give an image or work up the imagination for masturbation.
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:33 PM   #14
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Some people have good memories, I suppose.

Or they could nip off to the bathroom.
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:18 AM   #15
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I still don't understand why they are just watching porn at a library. Clarify me if you can but I have always been under the impression that porn is used to give an image or work up the imagination for masturbation.
Not everyone has an internet connection at home. And not everything has to end in full masturbation, otherwise men wouldn't bother to look at cute women on the street.
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