Raise the drinking age - Page 3

Shawnee123 · 10-04-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

Edit: we could probably get rid of anything that results in pages like this as well. I hate talking to people who think they're on a higher spiritual plane than everyone else just because they're on drugs. Although, this is a pretty informative site.

It's been a LONG time since I've found smoke good enough to put me on a higher spiritual plane.

9th Engineer · 10-05-2006, 09:01 AM

The only positive thing I've seen from having the legal age at 21 is that it keeps the fact that serving alchohol to freshmen is technically an illegal activity in the mind of the frat houses that otherwise don't give a shit as to whether you drink yourself into a coma. Most frats here run parties with the goal of turning a profit and usually sell drinks bar-style, so if you're concious enough to stick your hand over the counter with money in it they'll hand you whatever you want. They think twice about freshmen in that situation however because they can get charged with serving minors if that person then stumbles out the door into a cop who then asks where they got the booze.

mrnoodle · 10-05-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It's been a LONG time since I've found smoke good enough to put me on a higher spiritual plane.

i can hook you up some kif.

JUST KIDDING, THERAPY AND/OR PROBATION OFFICER WHO MIGHT BE READING MY INTERNETS

Shawnee123 · 10-05-2006, 10:32 AM

Prank caller! Prank caller!

Spexxvet · 10-05-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

The only positive thing I've seen from having the legal age at 21 is that it keeps the fact that serving alchohol to freshmen is technically an illegal activity in the mind of the frat houses that otherwise don't give a shit as to whether you drink yourself into a coma. Most frats here run parties with the goal of turning a profit and usually sell drinks bar-style, so if you're concious enough to stick your hand over the counter with money in it they'll hand you whatever you want. They think twice about freshmen in that situation however because they can get charged with serving minors if that person then stumbles out the door into a cop who then asks where they got the booze.

Ladies and gentlemen, l'll be brief.

The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or... took a few liberties with our female party guests.
We did.
But you can't hold a. whole fraternity responsible for the beha.viour of... a few sick, perverted individuals.
If you do... shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty... then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general?
(Deltas cheering)
I put it to you, Greg. Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?
Well...
you can do what you want to us...
but we won't sit here...
and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

Gentlemen!

fargon · 10-05-2006, 01:47 PM

Unfortunately the political element has spoken, "we do not have the rite to hold people accountable for their actions" my letter was rejected.

headsplice · 10-05-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Ladies and gentlemen, l'll be brief.

The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or... took a few liberties with our female party guests.
We did.
But you can't hold a. whole fraternity responsible for the behaviour of... a few sick, perverted individuals.
If you do... shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty... then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general?
(Deltas cheering)
I put it to you, Greg. Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?
Well...
you can do what you want to us...
but we won't sit here...
and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

Gentlemen!

Toga! Toga!

warch · 10-05-2006, 04:40 PM

Lower to 18. You can vote and kill for your country, you can have a legal beer.

21 pushes drinking out of public bars and clubs to house parties. Its already illegal so who cares! Party! In my residential, University area neighborhood I've witnessed the common vandalism, arson, assault, paddy wagon round ups and the annual missing drunk kid that winds up dead in the river.
Lower the drinking age and allow, encourage, adults to be adults.

Clodfobble · 10-05-2006, 04:50 PM

The problem that always strikes when you lower it to 18 is that high schoolers turn 18 sometime during their senior year, meaning alcohol is suddenly as easy for underage high school freshmen to obtain as it currently is for underage college freshmen to obtain. (For a brief time the age was actually 19 to try to counteract this, but it didn't really help.)

I say, if it's not going to be 21, then it ought to be 12. Everything in between means all of the taboo fun with none of the safeguards.

Spexxvet · 10-05-2006, 05:23 PM

And to cut down on drunk driving, a mandatory bar every two blocks - within crawling distance of home.

richlevy · 10-05-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by headsplice

It depends...Marinol doesn't really work at all (I have a friend who's both a regular smoker and a recovering cancer patient, and I know what he used when he was really illin'). I've heard that real THC pills from the Continent are fun, but have never tried them.

Well, here's one reason to consider them.

Quote:

Marijuana may stave off Alzheimer's

WASHINGTON, (Reuters) -- Good news for aging hippies: Smoking pot may stave off Alzheimer's disease.
New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.
Researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in California found that marijuana's active ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, can prevent the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from breaking down more effectively than commercially marketed drugs.
THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer's patients, the researchers reported in the journal Molecular Pharmaceutics.

Of course, if MJ improves brain function, how come GWB isn't smarter (or is that 'more smarter').

Bullitt · 10-05-2006, 10:52 PM

dang it rich! I just found that article and was thinking "sweet here's something the Cellar would like to see" but nooooo!

yeah thats a trip ain't it.. kinda the opposite of what you'd think would become of the stereotypical pot-heads.. all groggy and crap.

Griff · 10-06-2006, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

Of course, if MJ improves brain function, how come GWB isn't smarter (or is that 'more smarter').

The POTUS was a coke head, with all the negative stereotypes that implies, not a pot head.

piercehawkeye45 · 10-08-2006, 03:21 PM

The only thing a raised drinking age would do is more money from tickets and a very unhappy group of teenagers.

Raising the age to 25 would make for minors to buy alcohol but that just makes things worse. If you keep something from someone and tell them it's bad, when they actually do get it they will abuse it more often and worse then not holding them from it. I wouldn't be suprised in more alcohol related deaths and alcohol abuse if the drinking age is raised.

Raising the drinking age will only create more problems. The sooner we allow people to drink in an controlled enviorment (bars) and away from uncontrolled enviorments (house parties), alcohol related problems will decrease.

10-08-2006, 03:47 PM

Here some info:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...countries.html

10-05-2006, 09:01 AM	#32
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	The only positive thing I've seen from having the legal age at 21 is that it keeps the fact that serving alchohol to freshmen is technically an illegal activity in the mind of the frat houses that otherwise don't give a shit as to whether you drink yourself into a coma. Most frats here run parties with the goal of turning a profit and usually sell drinks bar-style, so if you're concious enough to stick your hand over the counter with money in it they'll hand you whatever you want. They think twice about freshmen in that situation however because they can get charged with serving minors if that person then stumbles out the door into a cop who then asks where they got the booze. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

10-05-2006, 10:32 AM	#34
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Prank caller! Prank caller! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-05-2006, 01:47 PM	#36
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	Unfortunately the political element has spoken, "we do not have the rite to hold people accountable for their actions" my letter was rejected. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

10-05-2006, 05:23 PM	#40
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	And to cut down on drunk driving, a mandatory bar every two blocks - within crawling distance of home. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

10-05-2006, 10:52 PM	#42
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	dang it rich! I just found that article and was thinking "sweet here's something the Cellar would like to see" but nooooo! yeah thats a trip ain't it.. kinda the opposite of what you'd think would become of the stereotypical pot-heads.. all groggy and crap. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

10-05-2006, 04:40 PM	#38
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Lower to 18. You can vote and kill for your country, you can have a legal beer. 21 pushes drinking out of public bars and clubs to house parties. Its already illegal so who cares! Party! In my residential, University area neighborhood I've witnessed the common vandalism, arson, assault, paddy wagon round ups and the annual missing drunk kid that winds up dead in the river. Lower the drinking age and allow, encourage, adults to be adults.

10-05-2006, 04:50 PM	#39
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	The problem that always strikes when you lower it to 18 is that high schoolers turn 18 sometime during their senior year, meaning alcohol is suddenly as easy for underage high school freshmen to obtain as it currently is for underage college freshmen to obtain. (For a brief time the age was actually 19 to try to counteract this, but it didn't really help.) I say, if it's not going to be 21, then it ought to be 12. Everything in between means all of the taboo fun with none of the safeguards.

10-08-2006, 03:21 PM	#44
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	The only thing a raised drinking age would do is more money from tickets and a very unhappy group of teenagers. Raising the age to 25 would make for minors to buy alcohol but that just makes things worse. If you keep something from someone and tell them it's bad, when they actually do get it they will abuse it more often and worse then not holding them from it. I wouldn't be suprised in more alcohol related deaths and alcohol abuse if the drinking age is raised. Raising the drinking age will only create more problems. The sooner we allow people to drink in an controlled enviorment (bars) and away from uncontrolled enviorments (house parties), alcohol related problems will decrease.

10-08-2006, 03:47 PM	#45
bmwmcaw Guest Posts: n/a	Here some info: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...countries.html

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