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Iraq is no comparising to WW2, neither in casualties nor causes.
It's not only the Brits who might break: US military stretched to breaking point
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Wishful thinking in the Guardian. |
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Another report by a retired Army officer under contract of the Pentagon. I'm afraid no wishful thinking here, just hard reality... The wishful thinking is from your side. PS: What wrong with The Graudian? Even MaggieL quotes from it...
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Same report as the Guardian, dude.
Ooh they found someone to say bad things! (Good things are never reported.) Was it a recently retired General? No. An ex-officer- i.e., not high-ranking, not current, and not likely to have a great deal of special information. Working at a D.C. think tank. I'm so unimpressed! And his report is not the headline, either. "If things don't change it's gonna get bad" is a more accurate headline. Problem is, that makes it too clear, it's not newsworthy. "If we don't stop for fuel we will run out." Yeah, so we'll stop for fuel. Duh! |
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Here's another report. And another, recent one... May be you believe the US Army veterans from Iraq? It isn't really a surprise if you remember Rummy the Great's estimate that US forces would be out of Iraq within a year. UT, you and MaggieL reminds me so much of Bush. Don't bring the news I don't wanna hear...
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"Don't bring me news I don't want to hear" would include not adjusting your own credibilty matrix on the basis of how this story was reported by various media...including our own tw. (I'd tell you what my own credibilty matrix entry for tw on political topics is at this point, but IEEE floating point can't represent numbers that small. :-) ) When a thread is titled "British to Withdraw From Iraq" when in fact the British *aren't* about to withdraw from Iraq and in fact have announced no such intention, that's just bogus propagandizing. What was that word you used again? Ah yes..."claptrap". You can wave around all the red herrings you like, but it's still BS.
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Reading for comprehension: it's a pretty grand piano!
What did Casey say? Quote:
Ah, that word "but". It's a conjunction meant to indicate that there is a condition on the first part of the statement it joins. Let's construct it this way. If we don't stop for fuel, we will run out, but we are going to stop for fuel. Stretched yes, breaking point no. |
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conjunction-junction, what's your function?!
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UT, the difference is, that Casey's answer is purely political. He would never admit it, even if it was a fact. Dannett's statement was non-political, widely supported by his own troops in Basra.
Many reports of US Army stretched too thin are already from 2004. Current situation is even worse, don't you agree?
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Riiiight, when you thought Casey was confirming your point, it was damning; when it turns out he confirms mine, it's meaninglessly political. Clearly I can't "win" this one, but one last point:
Follow: If 2004 reports said it was stretched to the breaking point; And it is worse now than it was in 2004; And in the 2006 reports, the military is still "stretched to the breaking point" but not described as "broken", ever; That would tell you the 2004 "stretched to the breaking point" reports were a bunch of bullshit; and The same media is driving reports in 2006, and the similarity to 2004 is that they are both election years. |
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