Some Dwellars know more than the Senate Intel Cmte

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Stop it....just fucking stop it.

Of course, it's so simple, why didn't we all think of that? While we're at it, why can't we all just get along and bring about world peace?

Could it be that those personal attacks are cathartic, maybe even therapeutic [venting], and organic to those experiencing deep frustration? What have you done to give them an route of egress?

Why not petition the Administrator to establish a "grudge match" forum in the Cellar-related section; or, start a "grudge match" thread yourself in the Cellar Meta forum. The moderating process would be simplified. All Dwellars, wherever they may be posting, will conduct their personal attacks via link from their basic post to an adjunctive attack post in the "grudge match" forum/thread. Non-compliance causing grievous violations (moderators' discretion) will result in the ENTIRE offending basic post being moved to the "grudge match" arena; or, deleted.

You can do it; but, you don't have to do it: it's up to you!

[KinkyVixen]

I really don't know what the big deal is. I lurk, posting sometimes, and see all of the dissention taking place...but it's my choice whether or not I choose to participate in it. Obviously the people that do enjoy it or they wouldn't do it, otherwise they would just choose to ignore posting and getting involved like I do. So what's the problem? That's what boards like this are for right?discussion, arguing, etc, etc? I might not agree with everything, or know enough about everything to say anything to make a difference but I know how to ignore it if it just really isn't that big of a deal to me. I don't care one way or the other about Mari and her illness, or if she's feeding everyone a load of crap...it doesn't interest me or bother me enough to get involved in it. LJ and the others can fight her all they want, if that's what they want...hell, it just gives me more to waste my time with. And, some of it is quite funny!

[vsp]

Man, this kind of stuff didn't happen back when Dobbs owned the board.

[Happy Monkey]

Effective or not, it needed to be said.

[busterb]

10 4

[Undertoad]

And you've been played, too. Played, played, played.

You can't deny it. You don't need to. We've all been played, and once again there are not one, not two, but three separate threads, all playing the game of the attention whoring, the most expert drama-producing victimization queen of all time.

Someone who can now, once again, sit back and claim, who, l'il ol' me? What did poor old me do to deserve this? Victim, I'm the victim, help help help!

But once again the point is, it's all about her.

The only way to win is not to play. And that's what I did; I took my thread and went home with it. You say "don't do this" but that's what I was doing, removing myself from the situation.

And ever the expert, she then deleted her thread in which her provocative little game was too evident.

And you know the most ironic thing about all of it?

You people who "speak up for her" think you are doing her a favor.

And you think she cares about you, in some small way perhaps; but you've been played. The point was to get enough of you to pick sides, until she could violate our general agreement to merely stay apart, an agreement which I had carefully stayed true to. And boom, instant drama.

You say, oh, just ignore it! But you've been played, and you don't understand what's happening here. Ignoring it is not the end for a drama queen. She continues to deviously provoke until there is drama. And the more drama the better. It is inevitable.

If you want to do her a favor, you will demand that she be gone, and to hopefully learn the lesson that such behavior is absolutely foul and reprehensible, not only here but everywhere. It is the only polite response to such gamesmanship. And perhaps the only hope for her as a human being.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

And you've been played, too. Played, played, played.

If she's a troll, then the people who attack her are the ones that got played. If not, then they're just being jerks.

If you don't want a thread to be about her, respond to the issue she raises without any reference to her connection to it. Or don't respond at all. Responding by personal attack (which includes calls for everyone to pressure her to leave) is either playing into her devious plot, or it is irrelevant, or both.

I'm not "speaking up for her" here or doing her a favor; I just get annoyed when these little snark exchanges crop up. But I absolutely wouldn't want any of the people involved to leave.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

If she's a troll, then the people who attack her are the ones that got played. If not, then they're just being jerks.

If you don't want a thread to be about her, respond to the issue she raises without any reference to her connection to it. Or don't respond at all. Responding by personal attack (which includes calls for everyone to pressure her to leave) is either playing into her devious plot, or it is irrelevant, or both.

I'm not "speaking up for her" here or doing her a favor; I just get annoyed when these little snark exchanges crop up. But I absolutely wouldn't want any of the people involved to leave.

Good call ....HP


and Bruce your being a good moderator. I see you as unbiased.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Played? I don't think so. Entertained? For sure. Personally I enjoy reading the next chapter of How the West Was Lost. I really don't care if it's true or not, because I've nothing invested but my time and the entertainment was worth that. The thing that seems to bother the people she annoys, is championing her causes in the first person, which they don't believe.

Mari's been here long enough so anyone seeing her threads, should know what to expect and if you see her post somewhere else, you know you can almost predict her position on most topics. I'd say she's not the only one.

UT, rule #3;

Do not be "intolerably irritating".
The meaning of that last item is of course open to interpretation. But basically, if you are a troll, attention whore, moron, spammer, single-issue hammer, or otherwise want to hurt or "test" this community, you WILL be removed and banned.

If you feel that applies, you've got the button....in fact you're the only one that can make that decision.
You don't have to explain, you don't have to start a thread to discuss it.
Whatever you say, goes.

That said, as long as I'm a member of this board, I won't stand by, while someone bullies, or intimidates, another member.

[limey]

what xob said.

It is your board, UT, and you can ban who you like for whatever (or no) reason. Otherwise, people can post here, people can respond, can ignore, can get annoyed, can do whatever ...

Isn't this board like a big party, with conversations in a number of rooms? If you don't like the conversation in a particular room, or you see that there is someone you can't stand in there, go somewhere else for a while. Or, like I said, it's UT's house, you go ahead and chuck someone out. But picking fights, I'd rather not see that ...

[JayMcGee]

am I too late to mention 'the land of the free'.......?

[JayMcGee]

lol!


at the time of writing, this thread stands at 42 posts......


DON'T PANIC!

[lookout123]

it's ok Jay. threads like this get everyone fired up again for awhile. in a sick sort of way it is actually good for the cellar.

[Hippikos]

This thread is becoming increasingly more pathetic. As usual with bulletin boards keyboard warriers are all over the place. In normal life this would never happen looking into eachothers eyes.

UT, as a board owner, needs to make a decision, ban da bitch or ignore her. Otherwise you lose your authority. I'm all the way with Bruce here.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by Hippikos

UT, as a board owner, needs to make a decision, ban da bitch or ignore her.

You have just defined the essence of the problem. UT's dilemma.

We Cellar Dwellars have one option that UT does not have: the ignore switch. I put the dingbat on my ignore list after her last self-centered, passive-aggressive maelstrom and found a way to enjoy the Cellar without her annoying presence. Ironically, UT - as the board admin - does not have that option so he is forced to confront and be confronted by whatever she posts. He cannot "look the other way" or pretend not to see it. He has to look at it. All of it.

Secondly, UT chooses not to ban her. Why? He'll have to answer that but my theory after hanging out here for a couple years is that he puts her right to post (on his board) above his own right not to be offended or deliberately tormented by someone posting on his board.

That's the kind of person UT is. That's the kind of person who just got ran off of his own board. And just as soon as he left, she left. Why? I'll leave that question for the reader to answer. I think I already know.

Now, with the board in shambles, even our ignore button doesn't work. Now we know what UT feels like. No. We don't. Only if this were our house would we.

I don't expect everyone to appreciate or understand my visceral summation of Marichiko. I also don't expect that everyone will understand exactly what just happened. It is sufficient to know that UT feels like he can't even enjoy what he himself has created - one of the finest meeting places on the entire internet. And that, moreso even than the smoldering ruin Marichiko has reduced this place to - albeit temporarily - is the real tragedy here.

If she has even one sliver of respect for UT or for the latitude she was granted before he reached the limits of human endurance, she will never darken the door of this fine establishment again. Ever.