Ending God's Tax Exempt Status - Page 3

08-20-2007, 12:42 AM

Or, BETTER YET, they can DO the charity the actually CLAIM to do with the money you give them.

Cloud · 08-20-2007, 12:53 AM

harsh, Jim!

lumberjim · 08-20-2007, 12:58 AM

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harsh, Jim!

fuck him. he just made my ignore list. coffin dodger.

elSicomoro · 08-20-2007, 01:00 AM

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fuck him. he just made my ignore list. coffin dodger.

Dude...mellow man. Go make another captain and coke.

Among the non-profits in my Zip...La Leche League...hooray for boobies!

08-20-2007, 12:53 AM

You calling me a malcontent, condescending and a prick. PRICELESS!
I am so happy right now!

Bruce, thank you for making my point so vividly!

Cloud · 08-20-2007, 12:56 AM

so, you've got churches, clubs, fraternal organizations, community organizations, scholarship funds, welcome wagons, international organizations and --surprise--charities! As I said, too narrow a definition.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-20-2007, 01:02 AM

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As I said, too narrow a definition.

Exactly, their message is immaterial.

08-20-2007, 12:59 AM

Woohoo!!!!

The welcome wagon nor a frat should be exempt if they pull in enough to pay taxes.
Scholarship funds, they provide far more service than they will ever need admin to break that threshold... no problem.
I don't see the issue.

Cloud · 08-20-2007, 01:00 AM

(ducks to avoid flying bodily fluids)

Cloud · 08-20-2007, 01:08 AM

the messages may be immaterial, but the purposes are not--at least according to the tax code.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-20-2007, 01:17 AM

Their purpose is their message.

08-20-2007, 01:25 AM

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Their purpose is their message.

Which is why they buy all the land and invest so much?
Yeah... sell me another one.

Ibby · 08-20-2007, 01:24 AM

I personally see no reason whatsoever that a church should not have to pay taxes. I see no reason why they should pay more in taxes than any other organization that draws in the same amount of money... but I see no reason why they shouldn't have to pay.

skysidhe · 08-20-2007, 10:29 AM

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So you want to do away with separation of church and state.

If churches were taxed this would be the natural outcome?

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I personally see no reason whatsoever that a church should not have to pay taxes. I see no reason why they should pay more in taxes than any other organization that draws in the same amount of money... but I see no reason why they shouldn't have to pay.

I can't see it either Ibram. Except for homeless shelters and Salvation Armys here I see no community benefit. I figure 30% of my income to the government is enough of a give that even before I left the church I stopped tithing my babys milk money away.

jester · 08-20-2007, 11:31 AM

I believe there are several churches whose expenditures may be questionable - most of those are larger churches, as in 500 & up in congregation. However, smaller churches, most of the pastors have a secular job to help support their families, because "the giving" pays just the basic bills. As stated earlier, you can't possibly group "all" churches or even other non-profit organizations into one lump sum - they are not all the same and as such are not "run" the same.

08-20-2007, 12:53 AM	#2
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	harsh, Jim! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-20-2007, 12:56 AM	#6
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	so, you've got churches, clubs, fraternal organizations, community organizations, scholarship funds, welcome wagons, international organizations and --surprise--charities! As I said, too narrow a definition. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-20-2007, 01:00 AM	#9
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	(ducks to avoid flying bodily fluids) __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-20-2007, 01:08 AM	#10
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	the messages may be immaterial, but the purposes are not--at least according to the tax code. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-20-2007, 01:17 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Their purpose is their message. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-20-2007, 12:42 AM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Or, BETTER YET, they can DO the charity the actually CLAIM to do with the money you give them.

08-20-2007, 12:59 AM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Woohoo!!!! The welcome wagon nor a frat should be exempt if they pull in enough to pay taxes. Scholarship funds, they provide far more service than they will ever need admin to break that threshold... no problem. I don't see the issue.

08-20-2007, 01:24 AM	#13
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I personally see no reason whatsoever that a church should not have to pay taxes. I see no reason why they should pay more in taxes than any other organization that draws in the same amount of money... but I see no reason why they shouldn't have to pay. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

08-20-2007, 11:31 AM	#15
jester why so serious Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,712	I believe there are several churches whose expenditures may be questionable - most of those are larger churches, as in 500 & up in congregation. However, smaller churches, most of the pastors have a secular job to help support their families, because "the giving" pays just the basic bills. As stated earlier, you can't possibly group "all" churches or even other non-profit organizations into one lump sum - they are not all the same and as such are not "run" the same.

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