PETA - Page 3

Aliantha · 05-06-2008, 04:56 PM

You know, when horses live as the wild animals they once were and still are, their risk of death and destruction are far higher every day (and far less humane in general), even than that for racehorses who one must say, are among the most pampered of all animals. Except maybe for Paris's dog.

sweetwater · 05-06-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

You know, when horses live as the wild animals they once were and still are, their risk of death and destruction are far higher every day (and far less humane in general), even than that for racehorses who one must say, are among the most pampered of all animals. Except maybe for Paris's dog.

Human interference with natural breeding and selection is hardly ever of direct benefit to the animals. Over-nutrition and other luxuries compound the health issues. So sure, race horses lead pampered lives ~ but only because they often lack the hardiness to survive without artificially high standards for feed, medical care, and other basics. I think it's less fair to an animal to breed them into total reliance on human care than to let nature takes its course - or its horse.

Aliantha · 05-06-2008, 07:56 PM

I've seen plenty of racehorses go ferral without too much trouble. I don't agree with your argument. I don't believe it's factual.

Giant Salamander · 05-06-2008, 07:59 PM

And I agree. That PETA are a bunch of crazy zealots of a new, if retarded, religion. Tipsily agree. Which just means 100% yes. Tipsy. Tuesday. Alliteration.

Aliantha · 05-06-2008, 08:01 PM

It's great that you agree, but we might need some clarification on what exactly it is that you're agreeing with. lol

sweetwater · 05-06-2008, 08:01 PM

Where are race horses thriving while feral? I'm asking.

Aliantha · 05-06-2008, 08:04 PM

Well, I live in Australia, and there are a lot of stockhorses which originated as failed racehorses. When mustering is finished these horses are let out into the paddocks to fend for themselves till next year when the stockmen come in. That's about 9 months of the year they live in the paddocks and fend for themselves. You can take my word on the fact that most of them are quite ferral when they're brought in again.

Also, the australian stockhorse which is a breed in itself also takes its heritage from thoroughbreds.

sweetwater · 05-06-2008, 08:50 PM

I grew up in a state in the USA that had a lot of quarter horses, standardbreds, and thoroughbreds. Quarter horses were adaptable for other work or as family pets, standardbreds were often purchased by the Amish for use in their buggies, but thoroughbreds had a hard time after the race track gig. Their temperaments, upkeep, and health issues were problems. Perhaps if they could join a herd of regular horses they'd have a chance of fitting in. Didn't happen there, though.

Cicero · 05-06-2008, 10:52 PM

I should have edited sooner...

kerosene · 05-07-2008, 12:50 PM

Woah, how did this thread get naughty so quickly?

elSicomoro · 05-07-2008, 01:06 PM

Well, any threads that have Bruce or Brianna posts in them are automatically PG-13...the more they speak, the faster it goes to R.

jinx · 05-07-2008, 07:44 PM

I used to work (waitress) with the woman who became the vet that helped Barbaro when he was injured the first time and I think PETA is teh suxor.

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-07-2008, 11:44 PM

PeTA is the strongest example I know of the kind of thing I rail against in the Cellar all the time: people's ideologies forcing them into stupidity and keeping them there. Anyone remember PeTA and Fish Kill, NY?

The PeTA people act like they have no more than a sunny-day IQ, and they do that repeatedly and persistently.

05-06-2008, 04:56 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You know, when horses live as the wild animals they once were and still are, their risk of death and destruction are far higher every day (and far less humane in general), even than that for racehorses who one must say, are among the most pampered of all animals. Except maybe for Paris's dog. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2008, 07:56 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I've seen plenty of racehorses go ferral without too much trouble. I don't agree with your argument. I don't believe it's factual. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2008, 07:59 PM	#4
Giant Salamander Deity of Dogs Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 114	And I agree. That PETA are a bunch of crazy zealots of a new, if retarded, religion. Tipsily agree. Which just means 100% yes. Tipsy. Tuesday. Alliteration. __________________ random artstuff

05-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It's great that you agree, but we might need some clarification on what exactly it is that you're agreeing with. lol __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#6
sweetwater lives inside a Mobius strip Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,120	Where are race horses thriving while feral? I'm asking. __________________ I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

05-06-2008, 08:04 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, I live in Australia, and there are a lot of stockhorses which originated as failed racehorses. When mustering is finished these horses are let out into the paddocks to fend for themselves till next year when the stockmen come in. That's about 9 months of the year they live in the paddocks and fend for themselves. You can take my word on the fact that most of them are quite ferral when they're brought in again. Also, the australian stockhorse which is a breed in itself also takes its heritage from thoroughbreds. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2008, 08:50 PM	#8
sweetwater lives inside a Mobius strip Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,120	I grew up in a state in the USA that had a lot of quarter horses, standardbreds, and thoroughbreds. Quarter horses were adaptable for other work or as family pets, standardbreds were often purchased by the Amish for use in their buggies, but thoroughbreds had a hard time after the race track gig. Their temperaments, upkeep, and health issues were problems. Perhaps if they could join a herd of regular horses they'd have a chance of fitting in. Didn't happen there, though. __________________ I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

05-06-2008, 10:52 PM	#9
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I should have edited sooner... __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

05-07-2008, 12:50 PM	#10
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Woah, how did this thread get naughty so quickly?

05-07-2008, 01:06 PM	#11
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Well, any threads that have Bruce or Brianna posts in them are automatically PG-13...the more they speak, the faster it goes to R.

05-07-2008, 07:44 PM	#12
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I used to work (waitress) with the woman who became the vet that helped Barbaro when he was injured the first time and I think PETA is teh suxor. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

05-07-2008, 11:44 PM	#13
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	PeTA is the strongest example I know of the kind of thing I rail against in the Cellar all the time: people's ideologies forcing them into stupidity and keeping them there. Anyone remember PeTA and Fish Kill, NY? The PeTA people act like they have no more than a sunny-day IQ, and they do that repeatedly and persistently. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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