We are readers - Page 3

Flint · 06-15-2008, 10:33 PM

reowring up the wrong tree

monster · 06-15-2008, 10:48 PM

nope. I expect you to put up or shut up, which you're doing, so that works

...but don't be down on your kid... just because they don't like to read the same stuff you do or in the same way you so, doesn't make them a non-reader. they need your support, not criticism. jmo, of course.

Aliantha · 06-15-2008, 11:04 PM

Could, my two sons have very different reading habits and they both have the exact same examples of reading from Daryl and myself. We both read for pleasure almost every night. We have shelves and shelves of fiction books at home suitable for the kids as well as for us (although we don't generally recommend Stephen King for the kids).

Our youngest boy can get so absorbed in a book it's to the exclusion of everything else. Aden would much prefer to talk on the phone or play computer games which we don't necessarily like, but it's his thing. Sometimes he likes to read and sometimes he doesn't. I don't think he'd care if he never read another book in his life, but I know Mav would.

Kids like every other person are different, and once they're old enough to choose what they do for pleasure, some of them are readers, and others aren't. Acknowledging that difference as a parent is fine too. I don't think it shows that you're not supportive of your child at all. It just shows that you know your child.

Sundae · 06-16-2008, 03:49 AM

My sister sees reading the same way I see crazy golf. Something to do on holiday to pass the time, that's fun for kids but has no place in an adult's normal day.

Then again she has two children, so has a lot more to fit into her usual day.

No, it's not a time things really - it's an attitude thing. It's just not important to her, whereas it fills a big part of my leisure time one way or another (book, magazine, internet).

Monster, I wouldn't call someone who consults non-fiction books a reader. Other than in the most literal sense that they have read something. I have drawn people diagrams of how to get to my house, I'm not a cartographer. I'm also not a fiction snob - although it is far and away my personal preference. I knew a guy into the SAS (sad but true). He gobbled up everything he could find written about them - and nothing else. I'd still have called hiom a reader.

DanaC · 06-16-2008, 05:41 AM

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Monster, I wouldn't call someone who consults non-fiction books a reader.

I would. If they are just dippingin for necessity then that's a non-emotional way of accessing. But, if they adore reading about a period in history, or they just get a rush of excitement at reading about different types of warfare, or looking at diagrams and texts that show how engines go together.....if they emotionally connect then they are readers.

Sundae · 06-16-2008, 05:56 AM

When I wrote "consults" I meant as in looking up a specific fact. Like using a dictionary, instead using a reference book as the means to an end. The book is a source and nothing else. The words "adore", "rush", "emotionally connect" would definitely signal a reader to me (as in my example above - he loved reading about the SAS, therefore he was a reader).

DanaC · 06-16-2008, 06:08 AM

Ahh right, gotcha.

glatt · 06-16-2008, 09:23 AM

I devoured books as an adolescent. I loved to read. I read so much then because I had HUGE blocks of time with nothing to do. I was always looking for the next book to read. I was hooked.

Today, I read kids books every night to my kids. I read how-to books all the time when they are related to a project I'm working on. I've got a stack of books on my bedside table and I read for 15-30 minutes every night before turning out the lights.

But I really don't read novels anymore. I just don't have the time, or desire, or something, to get into a long novel. I read maybe 1-2 novels a year. I only want to read a novel if it's an outstanding novel, and it's hard to find those. I feel cheated when I've read a novel and it wasn't that good.

SteveDallas · 06-16-2008, 09:41 AM

Dana, it's a fascinating, disturbing, rewarding, and humbling.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Except...there was this girl I knew from high school working the register...I only knew her as an acquaintance, and for her to see me buying these books!

So go back to the shelf and pick up Penthouse Letters Vol. XXXIV to add to your purchases. I guarantee, she'll never even remember you bought the other two.

classicman · 06-16-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Define Educator, please. I'm a parent. But so are you. I'm not a teacher.

Uh disagree there - you are the most important teacher your child will ever have.

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

So go back to the shelf and pick up Penthouse Letters Vol. XXXIV to add to your purchases. I guarantee, she'll never even remember you bought the other two.

So very true!

Cicero · 06-20-2008, 10:57 AM

I will take my group "pat on the back" as a member of the group. Why not?

I think reading and non-reading is based on the regularity of reading anything at all, and the amount. I think it's quite simple.

If you are an involved, regular member of the cellar, you are a reader. Just take the compliment.

Unless you want to be identified with the new non-reading "cool" class. I'm hip, not a reader. plbbbbt.

lookout123 · 06-20-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I just went to the book store Borders and just came back.
I was browsing books, on, ahem...meeting women and stuff..ahem.
There were these two really good books I was gonna purchase, something about "Beat the Shy" or something like that and one entitled "How to succeed with women." I was really excited to get these books!

Except...there was this girl I knew from high school working the register...I only knew her as an acquaintance, and for her to see me buying these books!

Exactly the reason I need these books...

Put those books down and carry "You, Inc", "Talent is Never Enough", "Now Go Find Your Strengths", and one pleasure reading book to the register. She'll recognize you, talk to you, maybe about the books, maybe not, but she'll know you're not sitting around playing video games 23 hours a day. Hopefully you get the chance to chat, if not, you've got some good books and a little more experience in not being terrified of a woman.

Cicero · 06-20-2008, 12:13 PM

You should have seen the look I got at the bookstore from the clerk when I special ordered, "How to Heal the Hurt by Hating"!!

It was a funny book, but the elderly clerk did not "get it". But I never actually gave a darn because they should be professional enough not to bat an eyelash at anything you buy or order, in their store.

As a response to what lookout said, I am uncomfortable when clerks notice my book habits and subjects, then ask me out. One time it happened right in front of my husband with him standing right there. But that might work for you fresh as a convo. starter.

Cloud · 06-20-2008, 12:24 PM

we're obviously not reading about the Crimean war, though.

DanaC · 06-20-2008, 12:34 PM

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we're obviously not reading about the Crimean war, though.

umm....actually, I have been reading a couple of journal articles about the Crimean war this week :P

06-15-2008, 10:33 PM	#31
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	reowring up the wrong tree __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-15-2008, 10:48 PM	#32
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	nope. I expect you to put up or shut up, which you're doing, so that works ...but don't be down on your kid... just because they don't like to read the same stuff you do or in the same way you so, doesn't make them a non-reader. they need your support, not criticism. jmo, of course. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

06-15-2008, 11:04 PM	#33
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Could, my two sons have very different reading habits and they both have the exact same examples of reading from Daryl and myself. We both read for pleasure almost every night. We have shelves and shelves of fiction books at home suitable for the kids as well as for us (although we don't generally recommend Stephen King for the kids). Our youngest boy can get so absorbed in a book it's to the exclusion of everything else. Aden would much prefer to talk on the phone or play computer games which we don't necessarily like, but it's his thing. Sometimes he likes to read and sometimes he doesn't. I don't think he'd care if he never read another book in his life, but I know Mav would. Kids like every other person are different, and once they're old enough to choose what they do for pleasure, some of them are readers, and others aren't. Acknowledging that difference as a parent is fine too. I don't think it shows that you're not supportive of your child at all. It just shows that you know your child. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-16-2008, 03:49 AM	#34
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	My sister sees reading the same way I see crazy golf. Something to do on holiday to pass the time, that's fun for kids but has no place in an adult's normal day. Then again she has two children, so has a lot more to fit into her usual day. No, it's not a time things really - it's an attitude thing. It's just not important to her, whereas it fills a big part of my leisure time one way or another (book, magazine, internet). Monster, I wouldn't call someone who consults non-fiction books a reader. Other than in the most literal sense that they have read something. I have drawn people diagrams of how to get to my house, I'm not a cartographer. I'm also not a fiction snob - although it is far and away my personal preference. I knew a guy into the SAS (sad but true). He gobbled up everything he could find written about them - and nothing else. I'd still have called hiom a reader. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

06-16-2008, 05:56 AM	#36
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	When I wrote "consults" I meant as in looking up a specific fact. Like using a dictionary, instead using a reference book as the means to an end. The book is a source and nothing else. The words "adore", "rush", "emotionally connect" would definitely signal a reader to me (as in my example above - he loved reading about the SAS, therefore he was a reader). __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

06-16-2008, 06:08 AM	#37
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Ahh right, gotcha.

06-16-2008, 09:23 AM	#38
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I devoured books as an adolescent. I loved to read. I read so much then because I had HUGE blocks of time with nothing to do. I was always looking for the next book to read. I was hooked. Today, I read kids books every night to my kids. I read how-to books all the time when they are related to a project I'm working on. I've got a stack of books on my bedside table and I read for 15-30 minutes every night before turning out the lights. But I really don't read novels anymore. I just don't have the time, or desire, or something, to get into a long novel. I read maybe 1-2 novels a year. I only want to read a novel if it's an outstanding novel, and it's hard to find those. I feel cheated when I've read a novel and it wasn't that good.

06-20-2008, 10:57 AM	#41
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I will take my group "pat on the back" as a member of the group. Why not? I think reading and non-reading is based on the regularity of reading anything at all, and the amount. I think it's quite simple. If you are an involved, regular member of the cellar, you are a reader. Just take the compliment. Unless you want to be identified with the new non-reading "cool" class. I'm hip, not a reader. plbbbbt. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

06-20-2008, 12:13 PM	#43
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	You should have seen the look I got at the bookstore from the clerk when I special ordered, "How to Heal the Hurt by Hating"!! It was a funny book, but the elderly clerk did not "get it". But I never actually gave a darn because they should be professional enough not to bat an eyelash at anything you buy or order, in their store. As a response to what lookout said, I am uncomfortable when clerks notice my book habits and subjects, then ask me out. One time it happened right in front of my husband with him standing right there. But that might work for you fresh as a convo. starter. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

06-20-2008, 12:24 PM	#44
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	we're obviously not reading about the Crimean war, though. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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